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re: The DOJ Not Bringing Their Best for the Comey Trial
Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:38 pm to cajunangelle
Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:38 pm to cajunangelle
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how many threads on this are you going to start? I mean put it all in one thread, no? did you start a thread on Comey to a GJ in Fla?
You have such weird criticisms of me. Rather than opening a new thread, I used this old one because today's news best fits the incompetence of the prosecution team subject.
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:42 pm to dukkbill
quote:It is probably a blessing in disguise that the case will be thrown out before turning over the GJ materials. Things are messy enough already.
Not quite, the magistrate judge issued a discovery order to turn over the materials. The district court judge stayed the order until he conducted a hearing on the matter
Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:49 pm to dnm3305
but but Trump was going to drain the swap, he brought in Bondi and Kash to clean it up and prosecute the swamp. Tell me how this is everyone's but Trump's fault...
Posted on 11/19/25 at 2:48 pm to mmcgrath
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It is probably a blessing in disguise that the case will be thrown out before turning over the GJ materials.
The Eastern District of Virginia is known for its efficiency. I was surprised the Judge didn't insist on deciding the motion to dismiss based on Halligan’s improper appointment first, and staying all other proceedings as potentially unnecessary.
That would have been the mercy killing that I bet Halligan wishes had happened.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:12 pm to IvoryBillMatt
From what I'm reading the prosecution too way too many liberties in getting a bill . If it's not amateur hour at DOJ it's certainly rookie mini camp
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:13 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:19 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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The Eastern District of Virginia is known for its efficiency. I was surprised the Judge didn't insist on deciding the motion to dismiss based on Halligan’s improper appointment first, and staying all other proceedings as potentially unnecessary.
I don't have any insight into the judges thoughts, but it's possible that is not his direction primarily because of efficiency. You have to anticipate that no matter what you order on any of the motions, your decision will be appealed. Thus, if you docket everything, and make decisions on everything in close proximity in time, the appeals court could do the same. If you stay proceedings until a decision, and you are overtuned on appeal, you are pushing the docket out even further.
Additionally, the appeals court could be relieved from making other pronouncements of law that have precedential value, which could hamstring future decisions. That is, even if you really wanted to dismiss based on abuse of the grand jury or for improper appointment, you run the risk of establishing a precedent that could impact future prosecutions where you didn't think that dismissal was warranted, but bound yourself to a test that was too easy to navigate.
Many judges are reluctant to create new law if they can find an easy way to dispose of or uphold a matter that doesn't require a new precedent. Bad facts make bad law, and no one wants to be the one who gets quoted as making the bad law.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:30 pm to dukkbill
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Many judges are reluctant to create new law if they can find an easy way to dispose of or uphold a matter that doesn't require a new precedent. Bad facts make bad law, and no one wants to be the one who gets quoted as making the bad law.
As usual, all good points, but the valid appointment issue is purely a legal one. The facts aren't in dispute. AFAIK (I could be wrong), but there aren't any appellate decisions on this issue yet.
It seems like that threshold issue needs to be decided first. OTOH, today's revelation might leap frog that. Is there even an indictment in this case???
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:34 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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If tweet fails to load, click here. I am SHOCKED to see Julie Kelly shut it the frick down after starting off with this
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:45 pm to IvoryBillMatt
The fact that the DAG told the aUSA not to disclose earlier declination to the GJ is not cool. A prosecutor has a lot of discretion in a GJ proceeding but that could be problem
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
I used to respect Julie Kelly. Apparently, here's the context in which he referred to Halligan being a puppet. Whether or not she is a puppet or a stalking horse for Trump IS the issue in deciding the vindictive prosecution motion.
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:27 pm to IvoryBillMatt
It is in a shite court so why w3aste any effort?
That is what the board wants - fast indictments with no pausing to get completeness.
That is what the board wants - fast indictments with no pausing to get completeness.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:29 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Trump keeps picking attys at the Mar a Lago pool
They are easy on the eyes and dim as Eric
They are easy on the eyes and dim as Eric
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:32 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Why not bring in your best federal prosecutor from ANYWHERE in the country? They don't have a better bench than a couple of inexperienced prosecutors from North Carolina?
I'm thinking no one worth a damn wants their name attached to this. He's not going to get convicted, I'm not even sure it will make it to trial.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 5:22 pm to dnm3305
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Fig gots
Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:31 pm to IvoryBillMatt
As critical as I am about the indictment, the Government did a good job with their memo regarding Halligan not presenting the actual indictment to the Grand Jury.
Memorandum on Behalf of USA
Memorandum on Behalf of USA
Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:37 pm to Tmcgin
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Trump keeps picking attys at the Mar a Lago pool
They are easy on the eyes and dim as Eric
He picks them based on how much they look like his daughter, who he thinks is a "piece of arse".
Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:40 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Does she have big boobs?
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:03 pm to KiwiHead
The way I understand this is that attorneys disagreed on whether to present to GJ. If that is true, why would there be a problem not disclosing that?
I get that if there were actual exculpatory evidence being withheld, but is that alleged, and if so - on what basis?
Is the idea that becauase the defense is claiming vindictive prosecution? That would be a rather sweeping decision to claim prosecutors' disagreements over bringing charges would be exculpatory.
I get that if there were actual exculpatory evidence being withheld, but is that alleged, and if so - on what basis?
Is the idea that becauase the defense is claiming vindictive prosecution? That would be a rather sweeping decision to claim prosecutors' disagreements over bringing charges would be exculpatory.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:10 pm to IvoryBillMatt
So the full GJ saw a 3 count indictment, voted yes on 2 counts, no on 1 count. Government took out the 1 count and then presented a 2 count indictment (the counts approved) to the foreman only, who then signed it without the entire GJ seeing the 2 count indictment?
That is better then what I understood to have happened.
That is better then what I understood to have happened.
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 9:12 pm
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