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The demonization of Vladimir Putin is not a policy. It is an alibi for not having one.”. .

Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:19 pm
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7662 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:19 pm
From The Gateway Pundit

The late Stephen F. Cohen’s final book, War with Russia?: From Putin & Ukraine to Trump & Russiagate, is prophetic
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I cringe at the ignorance being spewed by U.S. politicians and pundits about Vladimir Putin. He is characterized as a new Hitler and/or a new Stalin. Garbage. Those making such claims expose themselves as uneducated fools who apparently studied history by watching Hollywood movies

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- “Putin is not the man who, after coming to power in 2000, “de-democratized” a Russian democracy established by President Boris Yeltsin in the 1990s and restored a system akin to Soviet “totalitarianism.”
- “Nor did Putin then make himself a Tsar or Soviet-like “autocrat,” which means a despot with absolute power to turn his will into policy.”
-“Putin is not a Kremlin leader who “reveres Stalin” and whose “Russia is a gangster shadow of Stalin’s Soviet Union.”
-“Nor did Putin create post–Soviet Russia’s “kleptocratic economic system,” with its oligarchic and other widespread corruption. This too took shape under Yeltsin during the Kremlin’s shock-therapy “privatization” schemes of the 1990s, when the “swindlers and thieves” still denounced by today’s opposition actually emerged.”
-“Which brings us to the most sinister allegation against him: Putin, trained as “a KGB thug,” regularly orders the killing of inconvenient journalists and personal enemies, like a “mafia state boss.” This should be the easiest demonizing axiom to dismiss because there is no actual evidence, or barely any logic, to support it. And yet, it is ubiquitous. ”

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America, along with many in Western Europe, helped loot Russia in the wake of the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union. Lobbyists in Washington, DC frantically signed up oligarch Russian clients starting in 1995. I know because one of those lobbyists hired me to work on the case of Mikhail Khodorkovsky.

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One of the reasons people in Washington are pissed at Putin is that he cracked down on the kleptocrats, which ended some lucrative retainers for power players on K Street in DC. “The Guardian reported in 2008 that “‘oligarchs’ from the era of former president Boris Yeltsin have been purged by the Kremlin”.
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These rings closer to truth to me. The rest at the link.

Plus Russians are not fans of GAY Boys
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:23 pm to
Putin never called me a racist for no reason other than I'm White.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28582 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:24 pm to
Another pro-Putin thread to repeat Russian propaganda.

How brave and edgy.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6793 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:27 pm to
No. We WANT to believe the US and British Media and the absolute scum of the earth the runs DC and London.

Why? Because the truth is, we are cowards who have allowed these scum to overrun our countries with refugees and subvert even our own children.

We are cowards, and this scum drags their balls over us and we do nothing. So we want to hate on Putin, and stand behind big mother Pentagon and pretend to be men by living vicariously though the blood of others children.

Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
3059 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:27 pm to
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From The Gateway Pundit



Stopped reading at that point.

Why do you MAGA fricks love Putin so much? It's really gay.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:30 pm to
We need Putin to make tboy posts disappear
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6557 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:30 pm to
MAGA cucks know that Putin is scum
but Trump said to like him and they are mindless

Putin is a HUGE thief and that makes a low end conman like
Trump envious
Posted by ThatTahoeOverThere
Member since Nov 2021
4978 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:32 pm to
Who else is defending Western Civilization like Putin? Nobody. Every limp dick western leader has turned secularist and their backs on our history and what made us great. Many of our leaders in this country have even labeled our admiration of that history as racist. I'm a white man and I refuse to apologize for my faith, my values or my ancestors who did nothing but create the greatest fricking culture in the history of Man. Putin is the only major world leader standing up for my values.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
17426 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:35 pm to
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Why do you MAGA fricks love Putin so much?



Putin is a better leader than Biden will ever be
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23801 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:47 pm to
I don't know much about all that. But I understand that he doesn't want unfriendly, foreign, military on his border. He isn't playing the international game until it happens. He is ending it now. The rest is justification to the world.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15717 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:48 pm to
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Another pro-Putin thread to repeat Russian propaganda. How brave and edgy.


It ain’t Putin leaving our border wide open, forcing Americans to choose between a vaccine and a job, and allowing violent criminals to run wild in our streets.

Putin isn’t out attacking our very history and calling whites racists and saying we need to be reprogrammed.

You people have demonized the conservative patriotic half of this country for years and now you can’t understand why we won’t join you in some conflict halfway ‘round the fricking world?

You and Ukraine should have thought about all of this when you allowed that communist shitbag Obama to overthrow their democratically elected government in 2014.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68426 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:50 pm to
The intelligence agencies and media lied about Trump for four years, much of which had to do with Russia. It's hard to get on board with Biden because of that and now that Dems are allied with neocon scumbags.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130289 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:53 pm to
I'll say it again:

We can recognize that Putin is a total POS while still not wanting to get involved in any of this shite and not believing he is behind every Dem/Leftist conspiracy theory.

Dude is a thug POS. I also don't give two fricks about Russia or what he does until it effects me directly (for the most part).
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7662 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 4:13 pm to



Biden's friends in Ukraine, did this, to US!
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6793 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 4:17 pm to
I'm not going to recognize anything. Where do you get your news that you can feel confident to call someone a thug and a POS?
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3237 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 4:23 pm to
You think we should listen to the people that tell us men can be women and have babys?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98180 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 4:28 pm to
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Stopped reading at that point.


If it was CNN you and LowT Boys dumbarses would be loving it
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 4:29 pm to
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Why do you MAGA fricks love Putin so much? It's really gay.
Why do you CNN worshippers listen to pedophiles?
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7662 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 4:36 pm to
Nearly three-quarters of Russians believe that homosexually is morally unacceptable, more than disapprove of other hot-button issues such as extramarital affairs, gambling and abortion.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7662 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 4:42 pm to
I recently met an American who was living in Moscow since 1999 (he is the operations manager for a U.S. based law firm). He returned to Florida to care for his ailing mother and showed up at the local gun range to do some shooting. When I discovered where he had been living for the last 20 years I asked him, “Have you seen any changes in Russia?”

He responded by describing Russia in 2000 as a “shithole.” The kleptocrats had robbed the people and the natural wealth of Russia. But in the ensuing 22 years, there has been a dramatic turn around. New buildings, a world-class public transportation system, safe streets, first class infrastructure, and freedom.

Yea, That place sucks compared to "US".
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