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re: “The Democrats party has never been on my side,” - DREAMers storming DNC today EL OH EL

Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by MillerLiteTiger
Member since Jan 2018
254 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:01 pm to
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Congress was controlled by Republicans who wouldn't pass anything.



You had ALL parts of govt controlled by Dems for the first 2 years of Obama's term. Why didn't you do anything then?

The Dems fricked up and you and everyone of them realize so now you are gonna spin cycle your arse off to try and pass blame.

But guess what, everyone is starting to see through the Democrat bullshite.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:01 pm to
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Do you even know how Congress works?


Yes I do.

There were plenty of Republicans that want to give amnesty to illegals. Miss Lindsey, McCain and the rest of the NeverTrumpers are all for it.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21123 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:02 pm to
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Except it didn't provide two of most important pieces in it. Why give up something for not getting what you want.

You Dems really don't truly understand how deals work I see.



I'm not a Dem. I despise the Democrats. But, I do care about truth and Trump's tweet is total bull crap.

Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31894 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:03 pm to
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So, get them to make the "promise" a reality. How hard is that?


You and I both know that was never going to happen. Trump knows it to. That’s why he is shining a light on it.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21123 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:03 pm to
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There were plenty of Republicans that want to give amnesty to illegals. Miss Lindsey, McCain and the rest of the NeverTrumpers are all for it.


Do you remember it coming up in 2013 and 2014? It failed because not enough Republicans wanted it. It didn't have enough votes. Geez, man. That was all over the news just a few years ago.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79159 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:04 pm to
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A "promise" of $25 Billion.


appropriation>>>>>>>>>>>a measly promise
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21123 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:05 pm to
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You and I both know that was never going to happen. Trump knows it to. That’s why he is shining a light on it.



So, even when a Republican controlled Congress passes something on immigration, it still won't happen. This is the moving target, isn't it?

CONGRESS WILL NEVER DO IT! Therefore, every single bill is dead before it even gets discussed.

Whatever. Trump lies constantly. This tweet is a lie and is pure deflection. Believe what you want.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78086 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:05 pm to
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Do you remember it coming up in 2013 and 2014? It failed because not enough Republicans wanted it. It didn't have enough votes. Geez, man. That was all over the news just a few years ago.


what does that have to do with 2018 and trump's offer to give 1.8 million illegals a path citizenship?
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21123 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:06 pm to
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appropriation>>>>>>>>>>>a measly promis



Then get it to appropriation. I'd be all for that!

It's like we don't even have a Republican President and a Republican Congress. Geez. The Democrats are SO powerful!

Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21123 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:07 pm to
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what does that have to do with 2018 and trump's offer to give 1.8 million illegals a path citizenship?



I'm responding to the other guy and him saying that Congress didn't do anything with Obama. We were talking about when Obama was president, not now.

Keep up. larson brought it up. I was responding.
Posted by Giventofly
Austin
Member since Mar 2018
21 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:09 pm to
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“If you won’t let us dream!” protesters chanted. “We won’t let you sleep!



This quote here...haha!!
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21123 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:09 pm to
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You had ALL parts of govt controlled by Dems for the first 2 years of Obama's term. Why didn't you do anything then?

The Dems fricked up and you and everyone of them realize so now you are gonna spin cycle your arse off to try and pass blame.

But guess what, everyone is starting to see through the Democrat bull shite.



Dude, shut up with this weak garbage. I'm not a Democrat, voted against Obama both times, and completely oppose the Democratic Party in all of its interactions and always have.

I had nothing to do with Obama in 2009 or 2010. But, Trump is full of crap RIGHT NOW in 2018 and anyone half way paying attention can see it.

Yes, the Democrats TOTALLY screwed up. Without question. And, they screw up all the time now, too.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31894 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:11 pm to
I guess I’m going to have to go all Santorum on you. Giving 1.8 million illegals CITIZENSHIP is a HUGE concession. Absolutely massive. Essentially resulting in every other demand being given up. What happens when you negotiate with libs? They bank that and make that the starting point and say “oh the President isn’t negotiating”


This is why you can’t negotiate with libs
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73753 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:12 pm to
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Trump himself blew up the deal. It's kind of hard to do a deal when you are the reason the deal doesn't get done.


Of course it's Trumps fault lmao
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78086 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:13 pm to
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Giving 1.8 million illegals CITIZENSHIP is a HUGE concession. Absolutely massive. Essentially resulting in every other demand being given up. What happens when you negotiate with libs? They bank that and make that the starting point and say “oh the President isn’t negotiating”


THIS.

its fricking ridiculous they ignored this offer. it will never come around again.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21123 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:14 pm to
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Get that MSM cock out your mouth and pay attention. Funding for the wall was 1/3 of what he proffered to give 1.8M Dreamers a pathway to citizenship. Stop listening to fake news. Real news organizations spelled it out clear as day!






You mean the 4 pillars? I know all about it. What were the chances of the last 2 pillars being accepted and getting through? Zero. But, that's totally different from what Trump's tweet said.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21123 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:16 pm to
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I guess I’m going to have to go all Santorum on you. Giving 1.8 million illegals CITIZENSHIP is a HUGE concession. Absolutely massive. Essentially resulting in every other demand being given up. What happens when you negotiate with libs? They bank that and make that the starting point and say “oh the President isn’t negotiating”




It isn't a huge concession when they were brought here as kids through no fault of their own and 80% of Americans in all the polls say they should stay and have a shot a citizenship. What are you going to do? Deport Dreamers?

Yank kids out of college who speak perfect English and deport them?

Throw Dreamers across the border when 80% of Americans say they want them to stay? If you think that's a concession, you are crazy.

We have elections every 2 and 4 years. Good luck with that.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21123 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:17 pm to
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its fricking ridiculous they ignored this offer. it will never come around again.


It will come around again. Trump doesn't get his Wall now.

What is he going to do? Deport Dreamers? Okay.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25116 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:17 pm to
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It's like we don't even have a Republican President and a Republican Congress. Geez. The Democrats are SO powerful!


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Some people don’t think the Senate be like it is, but it do.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140484 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:18 pm to
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turned down $25 Billion for the Border Wall


Earmarks are worth less than Rex's signature.
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