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re: The Democrats embrace the values of their youth movement, the Republicans don't
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:28 am to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:28 am to Bunk Moreland
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That said, I do think that whatever MAGA/AF is now is going to break into pieces. Chris Christie once described Trump as a force of nature. He had a unique ability to cobble together various factions.
Many hardcore MAGA/AF types on this board make this specific argument.
Trump =/= MAGA/AF
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:29 am to goldennugget
The youth of today is easily swayed by emotional propaganda.
The voting age should be 21 at a minimum.
The voting age should be 21 at a minimum.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:31 am to SlowFlowPro
MAGA is whatever Trump is doing at the time, which can shift with the wind. If we're invading a foreign country because Trump says so, that's MAGA.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:34 am to Rip Torn
Trump appeared on many podcasts in 2024 to reach those young men. they're on youtube, not FOX news.
What podcasts or alternative media did Sears in VA or Jack in NJ do this year? I saw Mamdani do more press and interviews than either of them.
What podcasts or alternative media did Sears in VA or Jack in NJ do this year? I saw Mamdani do more press and interviews than either of them.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:34 am to tide06
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You didn’t refute any of his points.
I did not, it seemed merely like petulant bitching.
The democrats let their youth's emotions dictate their values and positions. That's what got them to believing men can get pregnant and voting in communists to represent them.
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And is it that or are you just more focused on your 401k and maintaining the status quo for your own personal gain?
Because it certainly feels more like the latter with regard to many older GOP voters.
It sure as hell isn’t doing what’s best for future generations of Americans or the policies and spending would look much different than they do.
I'm in my 30's....
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:34 am to chalmetteowl
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If they said something you’d probably dismiss it and say “you don’t REALLY listen to Trump
No, if they said something I would explain to them why they're wrong and wait for a rebuttal. That's what critical thinking is about. But you have to have a large knowledge base to employ it.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:35 am to goldennugget
The Dem youth movement is founded on getting them to approve of violence.
And it’s working. Just look at the Virginia polls.
And it’s working. Just look at the Virginia polls.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:37 am to goldennugget
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End Wars? No thanks we will continue the war in Ukraine despite campaigning to end it,
Can’t end Ukraine or Gaza when the sides in question (Ukraine and Hamas) want to keep fighting. But the effort was made to try and end both.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:37 am to Ingeniero
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Ingeniero
MAGA is whatever Trump is doing at the time, which can shift with the wind. If we're invading a foreign country because Trump says so, that's MAGA.
Following Trump and having actual sincere policy beliefs has always been the internal conflict with MAGA. Trump is a great salesman and communicator and he's framed this idea on tens of millions of people that they don't have to have actual policies as planks in their political ideology because he sold them. This Avatar of being part of a movement where he doesn't promote any consistent policy or political philosophy. The problem is going to be when he's not around, not only is there not going to be as effective of a communicator and salesman, but you're going to have multiple people competing as the pure version of this nebulous Mass of political gobbledgook that's going to be very difficult to form a cohesive movement, especially being a minority party within the GOP
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:39 am to Bunk Moreland
Vance in 2028 may have a challenge holding Trumps 2024 coalition. Trump in 2016 had the backing of the populist wing but had to defeat the establishment candidates like Jeb and Rubio to win the primary
Vance is not exactly establishment GOP, he has to carry Trump's baggage but also Nick Fuentes' America First populists dislike him and Vivek. the most popular Conservative currently on the internet who has 20k viewers every night is bashing him, another Conservative podcaster is accusing him of being involved in Kirk's death
Trump's 2024 coalition of not only white working class but also Hispanic, black, asians voters wont hold . and Gen Z cares more about the Epstein files more than people realize
Vance is not exactly establishment GOP, he has to carry Trump's baggage but also Nick Fuentes' America First populists dislike him and Vivek. the most popular Conservative currently on the internet who has 20k viewers every night is bashing him, another Conservative podcaster is accusing him of being involved in Kirk's death
Trump's 2024 coalition of not only white working class but also Hispanic, black, asians voters wont hold . and Gen Z cares more about the Epstein files more than people realize
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:40 am to jrodLSUke
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You used to seem like a good dude. What happened?
The usual thing happened, which has claimed millions of victims over the last decade: TDS
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:44 am to RelicBatches86
JD is the only guy slick enough to pull it off. He is a real chameleon. MAGA will outright reject Big Dick Ron. I think everyone is skeptical of Vivek. JD will mainly have to fight off accusations that he is a Thiel stooge. I don't know if people will buy foreign intervention/support under the "peace through strength" banner if the message is coming from him.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 9:45 am
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:45 am to goldennugget
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My views haven't changed. I backed Trump because he campaigned like Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul but has governed like Lindsey Graham.
Hey nerd. You realize the GOP establishment (Lindsey's bros) controls the Senate, right? You're not getting shite passed that they don't agree to. Turtle made sure of that when he had Thune installed as the Senate Majority Leader. AND you still need a few Democrat votes to pass legislation. It's why Trump is trying to pressure Thune and Senate GOPe to nuke the filibuster, but they won't.
Learn about the Congressional legislative process.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:46 am to goldennugget
All negative talking points
Got any good stuff or just ignoring that?
Got any good stuff or just ignoring that?
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:46 am to SlowFlowPro
You supported and voted for Obama.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:47 am to Bunk Moreland
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JD is the only guy slick enough to pull it off. He is a real chameleon.
True, but JD isnt really MAGA and will disappoint the faithful.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:48 am to Ingeniero
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MAGA is whatever Trump is doing at the time, which can shift with the wind. If we're invading a foreign country because Trump says so, that's MAGA.
Oh NOZ... muh "wars." Except dude is negotiating historic peace deals more than any President in this nation's history.
TDS nerd.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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The problem is going to be when he's not around, not only is there not going to be as effective of a communicator and salesman, but you're going to have multiple people competing as the pure version of this nebulous Mass of political gobbledgook that's going to be very difficult to form a cohesive movement, especially being a minority party within the GOP
This is what I'm trying to get across to people after last night. Yeah it may not be a bellwether for anything on its own, but the fact that MAGA/AF is predicated on 1. Having Trump on the ballot 2. Requiring high/motivated turnout due to its populist nature, is a bad combination for midterms and 2028. Combine that with the fact that the administration's actions lately have been very much focused on "we're doing what we want, it's going to hurt, you'll get over it," you're running the risk of the winds shifting very quickly out of your sails. MAGA is currently walking a very thin tightrope of high risk, high reward politics and it only takes one misstep to have that tide turn on you.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:52 am to TheBoo
Im just trying to make sure everyone on the right understands that wants to think these young disaffected men who voted from Trump are gonna flip socialist based on all the polling if we dont give them some better options instead of broken campaign promises.
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