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re: The Democrats Are Close To Breaking
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:31 am to Homesick Tiger
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:31 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:That's simply not true, and Donald J Trump being president proves it. Dems will stay home if their candidate is shite, which is so proven that it's become a meme.
The ironic part is that "good" Dems still have to pull that lever with a D next to it while voting for a bad progressive leftie.
Progressives have taken the party hostage, which is only making more moderates stay home.
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:32 am to TX Tiger
You misunderstand my post. I agree there's interest in keeping two parties. I'm stating one party that does nothing but push forward is at a fork in the road. They can attempted to moderate or continue left.
It's obvious what they are doing. Summer of Resistance.
We are headed towards anarchy in heavily populated, progressive areas.
It's obvious what they are doing. Summer of Resistance.
We are headed towards anarchy in heavily populated, progressive areas.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:33 am to DelU249
quote:6. Continued belief that American voters are REALLY stupid and have thrown morals to the wind.
On economics I'm afraid that they can win on bernienomics
Their problems are
1. P.C. Culture
2. Identity politics
3. Media. People know they're in the tank, know they lie and it rubs them the wrong way. People don't like being lectured, told what to think and do and they really don't like celebrities with GEDs using their platform they have from movies and music to lecture them on politics
4. Somewhat related to PC culture but people are turned off by labeling opponents as bigots and racist fringe lunatics for beliefs that roughly half of Americans hold
5. Immigration- somehow they've adopted the ANYONE who wants to come can stance and people aren't having it and people who try and sound reasonable while being endorsed by or associated with others with the "everyone can come" stance are not trusted by the public on this issue
SirWinston and others are right in that the lesson from last night is the dems lose because people dislike how they play the game.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:41 am to tigerpawl
yeah I agree. I think BLM was a wave of destruction for democrats. swing voters are never getting behind that. they turn white Obama voters into white trump voters
the shite you see on huffpo and salon is unfathomably insulting to white people who are down for social justice in the broader sense but can never get behind willfully demonizing themselves in the process. they may publicly do so because they feel pressured but when they're in the voting booth no one is watching and they get to voice their opinion without fear of being put in the stocks
people are voting republican because they may not like republicans but they really really hate democrats.
the shite you see on huffpo and salon is unfathomably insulting to white people who are down for social justice in the broader sense but can never get behind willfully demonizing themselves in the process. they may publicly do so because they feel pressured but when they're in the voting booth no one is watching and they get to voice their opinion without fear of being put in the stocks
people are voting republican because they may not like republicans but they really really hate democrats.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:44 am to DelU249
quote:
people are voting republican because they may not like republicans but they really really hate democrats.
That's where we are. Dems stay home if they don't like the Dem candidate, and Reps go to the polls no matter the Rep candidate because they hate the Dems. At least in the south. Not sure that extrapolates out the whole country.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:45 am to DelU249
quote:
the lesson from last night is the dems lose because people dislike how they play the game.
So the ends don't justify the means?
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:51 am to The Spleen
No they split in the general
Ds vote dem no matter what and Rs vote republican no matter what
But people in between (registered democrats, republicans and independents) hate democrats as they are now. Those in between voters as of now choose our elected officials. And newsflash, most of them are white. Democrats support causes and organizations that demonize them. The media treats those causes and organizations with an unearned credibility. I don't even know who Handel is but when I see her generalized as a bigot
Ds vote dem no matter what and Rs vote republican no matter what
But people in between (registered democrats, republicans and independents) hate democrats as they are now. Those in between voters as of now choose our elected officials. And newsflash, most of them are white. Democrats support causes and organizations that demonize them. The media treats those causes and organizations with an unearned credibility. I don't even know who Handel is but when I see her generalized as a bigot
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:52 am to The Spleen
quote:Sometimes, it's important what the candidate won't do. The head-spinning maneuvers of Obama/Holder/Lynch and company make reasonable people default for the safe bet: No Mora Democrats.
people are voting republican because they may not like republicans but they really really hate democrats.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:56 am to Yak
quote:
That's simply not true,
Sure it is. You think only bad Dems vote? The good ones vote too my friend. If they're party line Dems then they have no choice but to pull that lever. However, you're right in saying that bandwagon Dems will stay home.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:56 am to DeltaDoc
The problem with the Democrats is the donor money is coming from the people that love to defend terrorist and illegals and from people that pander to genitalia and skin color. Donor money also comes in from people that promote anarchy, like Soros.
That is not mainstream America. Mainstream America is jobs and security.
That is not mainstream America. Mainstream America is jobs and security.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:00 am to WorkinDawg
"A common postmortem theme last night was that they are losing because they are to centrist. That they should embrace the left-wing and run with it all the way to victory."
You see this from both sides. It's comforting but usually delusional. "If we only ran a REAL conservative/liberal, we would have won."
You see this from both sides. It's comforting but usually delusional. "If we only ran a REAL conservative/liberal, we would have won."
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:03 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:It's not a bad vs. good thing. It's a disenfranchised middle class white moderate democrat thing.
Sure it is. You think only bad Dems vote? The good ones vote too my friend. If they're party line Dems then they have no choice but to pull that lever. However, you're right in saying that bandwagon Dems will stay home.
You only have to look at the DNC for this. Even Joe Biden was like, "where all the white people at?" Well, those people stayed home.
You may think otherwise, but I'm telling you...a horrible candidate mixed with a progressive takeover and an identity politics DNC helped Trump more than republican voters helped Trump, who couldn't get out of his own way and stumbled to a win.
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 10:06 am
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:09 am to The Spleen
quote:
That's where we are. Dems stay home if they don't like the Dem candidate, and Reps go to the polls no matter the Rep candidate because they hate the Dems. At least in the south. Not sure that extrapolates out the whole country.
Republicans don't hate democrats, they hate the violent protests and irresponsible identity politics that have taken over the Democratic Party. It's democrats that seem to project political beliefs unto actual people and allow their feelings for humans to be impacted by beliefs.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:11 am to LSUGrrrl
quote:
Republicans don't hate democrats
They do where I live.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:11 am to DeltaDoc
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:11 am to DeltaDoc
They're psychologically children.
Doesn't take much.
Doesn't take much.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:12 am to DeltaDoc
quote:People will be herded in whatever direction the establishment propaganda directs them. It's just more distraction to keep us from banning together to fight them.
You misunderstand my post. I agree there's interest in keeping two parties. I'm stating one party that does nothing but push forward is at a fork in the road. They can attempted to moderate or continue left.
It's obvious what they are doing. Summer of Resistance.
We are headed towards anarchy in heavily populated, progressive areas.
The bottom line doesn't change.
That's the fascinating part of this board. You folks obsess over the propaganda like Drama Queens when it has no bearing on the bottom line. In fact, it helps ensure there will be no change in the bottom line. It only helps to keep the wheels greased.
I guess I just don't understand the fascination with all the window dressing.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:14 am to The Spleen
But they hate them for non political reasons
That's kind of what the deplorables thing was. Now instead of celebrities and pundits calling them pieces of shite it was the candidate for president
That's kind of what the deplorables thing was. Now instead of celebrities and pundits calling them pieces of shite it was the candidate for president
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:28 am to Numberwang
quote:Clinically, I think this deserves more discussion. When you embrace that idea, it explains a lot.
They're psychologically children.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:39 am to DeltaDoc
The totalitarian progressives have taken over the Democratic party.
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