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The dangers of a tariff war.... China offers a cheaper alternative
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:35 am
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:35 am
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:36 am to bamabonners
America considers leaving Europe to defend herself. It works both ways.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:37 am to bamabonners
How is it dangerous for us if we couldn’t already sell our cars in Europe or China??
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:41 am to FLTech
We may be Europes biggest market for cars. Them letting in low price Chinese cars while us tariffing their cars would be akin to them slitting their own throats as they risk losing market share in both the EU and USA.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:43 am to bamabonners
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The dangers of a tariff war.... China offers a cheaper alternative
Seems like China has always offered a cheaper alternative to every American product. What am I missing here?
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:46 am to bamabonners
Everything these countries are doing to try to feign leverage over US is laughable. We are the only real consumer market on this planet.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:46 am to bamabonners
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Favor Of Fixed Minimum Prices
So a tariff on Chinese car imports, paid by European consumers with proceeds going to China. Good plan. I'm sure China loves this idea.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:46 am to bamabonners
The E.U./China trade relationship will never work long-term. Their demographics are so skewed to the elderly that neither has sufficient domestic consumption. They both need to be net exporters.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:48 am to Bwmdx
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Them letting in low price Chinese cars while us tariffing their cars would be akin to them slitting their own throats as they risk losing market share in both the EU and USA.
But a lot of EU car companies have manufacturing plants in the U.S. and make cars that are not subject to import tariffs.
Mercedes in Alabama.
BMW and Volvo in South Carolina.
Volkswagen in Tennessee.
And now all Stellantis brands are officially Italian with 22 plants in the U.S.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:51 am to Bwmdx
You are correct sir. Its a large market share!
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EU Export Importance: The U.S. is the second-largest market for EU vehicle exports after the UK, with 22% of EU export value in 2024 attributed to the U.S.
The EU would take a hard hit if they no longer had access to the US market. The US would lose almost nothing, since we dont sell many cars in Europe.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:51 am to bamabonners
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China offers a cheaper alternative
Isn't their entire economy built on cheap knockoffs of American made products? What is changing?
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:51 am to Bwmdx
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Them letting in low price Chinese cars while us tariffing their cars
This statement makes no sense. Like has previously been mentioned, Europe tariffs USA vehicle imports to the point that our companies cannot compete there. Tariffs Europe imposes on other countries are completely irrelevant to that discussion.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:54 am to bamabonners
Let's leave Europe to itself. That also means to defend itself and find ways to support itself.
Not hyperbole. I wish we would abandon them and let them see how they fare.
Not hyperbole. I wish we would abandon them and let them see how they fare.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:56 am to bamabonners
This reminds me of Trump warning Germany about getting their energy from Russia and them ignoring it, should turn out similarly.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:19 am to Barstools
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Isn't their entire economy built on cheap knockoffs of American made products? What is changing?
May be the way it started, but many American companies source good from China because there isn't an alternative made in the US anymore.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:22 am to FLTech
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How is it dangerous for us if we couldn’t already sell our cars in Europe or China??
Elon sells a lot of Teslas in Europe. You think he'll be happy with this possible EU-China agreement to directly attack Tesla?
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:26 am to bamabonners
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many American companies source good from China because there isn't an alternative made in the US anymore.
And therein lies a big part of the problem. America's been domesticated like a pet. We're losing the ability to provide for our own needs. It's sad but humorous watching the idiot author of that article above (I'm assuming he's an American) celebrating the fact that America can't compete with China while disparaging any attempt to rectify that problem.
This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 9:37 am
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:29 am to Bwmdx
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We may be Europes biggest market for cars. Them letting in low price Chinese cars while us tariffing their cars would be akin to them slitting their own throats as they risk losing market share in both the EU and USA.
Not to mention more shitty cars on the crowded roadways of EU.
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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Elon sells a lot of Teslas in Europe. You think he'll be happy with this possible EU-China agreement to directly attack Tesla?
Probably not. Elon will just have to adjust.
IDK how this will impact Tesla because they have a plant in the EU zone, Berlin.
This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 9:33 am
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:33 am to GumboPot
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U.S. and make cars that are not subject to import tariffs
Probably a dumb question, are the parts that are used to assembled cars in America by EU carmakers produced in America?
If not, are the parts subject to tariffs or no tariffs since the final product is “Made in America”?
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