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re: The CR has failed in the House, not enough votes remaining to pass
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:45 pm to momentoftruth87
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:45 pm to momentoftruth87
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Why do we have non essential govt employees
I didnt hire them. They were here under Trump too...
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Just pointing out if layoffs is the biggest problem then we all should be for a shut down. You only listed layoffs
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:47 pm to Draconian Sanctions
it isn't normal for it to be announced there is an agreement and not have the votes. who is Speakers whip?
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:47 pm to Seldom Seen
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I’m putting my money on the guy who just won a big presidential election and the world's richest man who's willing to use his own money and his internet megaphone to primary anyone who doesn't vote the correct way.
POTUS and unelected oligarch telling Congress vote how we tell you to vote or else is very much what the founders were looking for when they came up with this system
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:47 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Man I’m confused.
So we need to pass one of these things to keep paying gov employees?
So don’t pass, bad.
Do pass, REALLY bad.
Do you just want the tiniest bill possible that will keep the gov folks employed? That sounds like a good idea to me.
We’ve got people on both sides arguing for and against passing the bill. I can’t wrap my mind around it.
So we need to pass one of these things to keep paying gov employees?
So don’t pass, bad.
Do pass, REALLY bad.
Do you just want the tiniest bill possible that will keep the gov folks employed? That sounds like a good idea to me.
We’ve got people on both sides arguing for and against passing the bill. I can’t wrap my mind around it.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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What are the 3 biggest problems with a government shutdown?
quote:coming anyway.
Layoffs.
They've been "home for Christmas" since Feb. 2020 anyway. Just send 'em a text.
IRS is first. The rest you can do alphabetically after you tell Zelensky he's getting a lump of Donbas coal in his stocking.
I have an idea- instead of giving Iran another $10 billion dollars send it to NC to tide them over.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:48 pm to momentoftruth87
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Just pointing out if layoffs is the biggest problem then we all should be for a shut down
Who wasnt for a shutdown?
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:48 pm to BuckyCheese
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, you're going to primary Thomas Massie, eh?
Difference between pressure and actually doing it. Massie no, Crenshaw yep. This will be a processs.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:48 pm to cajunangelle
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Is isn't normal for it to be announced there is an agreement
No but the agreement was just between the GOP members. Nobody asked the Democrats.
This post was edited on 12/19/24 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:49 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Did you want the first bill passed as it was?
POTUS and unelected oligarch telling Congress vote how we tell you to vote or else is very much what the founders were looking for when they came up with this system
Do you want this 2nd bill passed as is?
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:49 pm to FreddieMac
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This will be a processs.
8 years into this "process" you speak of.
Starting to think it isn't going to get done there chief.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:50 pm to ReauxlTide222
I think it would cut a lot of aid that goes to farmers and ranchers is my understanding.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:50 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Did you want the first bill passed as it was?
Do you want this 2nd bill passed as is?
I’m not going to pretend to have read it but I probably would have voted for the second bill based on what’s reported.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:51 pm to momentoftruth87
Who wasnt for a shutdown? again..
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:52 pm to Draconian Sanctions
So you like that Elon cut the bill to 100 pages, just don’t like the method?
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:52 pm to Tvilletiger
quote:Can’t someone introduce a bill specifically for the farmers and ranchers?
I think it would cut a lot of aid that goes to farmers and ranchers is my understanding.
Then we see who voted not to fund them?
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:53 pm to ReauxlTide222
The problem is not the bill, it's the process. Trump is forced to spend political capital before he's even in office
There's no reason at all that Musk and Vivek couldn't have done this behind the scenes weeks prior to this vote, if they hated the pork so much.
That would've been plenty of time to get the votes for their 2nd slim bill, instead of forcing it publicly and putting it to 12 hours.
Now Trump wants to primary and run purity tests with a 5 seat advantage in Congress? How is he going to get the rest of his agenda passed if a spending bill is this much trouble?
There's no reason at all that Musk and Vivek couldn't have done this behind the scenes weeks prior to this vote, if they hated the pork so much.
That would've been plenty of time to get the votes for their 2nd slim bill, instead of forcing it publicly and putting it to 12 hours.
Now Trump wants to primary and run purity tests with a 5 seat advantage in Congress? How is he going to get the rest of his agenda passed if a spending bill is this much trouble?
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:54 pm to ReauxlTide222
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So you like that Elon cut the bill to 100 pages, just don’t like the method?
I’m saying Congress has a role and a voice that shouldn’t be pushed aside for Trump or Elon’s whims.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:54 pm to BuckyCheese
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8 years into this "process" you speak of.
Their interpretation abilities are amazing. They can craft their dissonance into 6D chess in amazing time.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:55 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Rs are going to be painted as the death cult that wants to burn down everything.
This is the big difference between the parties. Dems will do something evil and immoral and it’s expected so nobody cares. Repubs do something practical and are wetting their pants because the other side might think they’re mean.
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