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Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:37 pm to Taxing Authority
You mean dead at the entrance.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:38 pm to Dawgfanman
Story over on Lowder with Crowder...cops went to get their own children out while not allowing parents anywhere near the school...
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:38 pm to the808bass
quote:There were another two reinstated because discipline was not levied within the 180-day window.
The Parkland SRO who hid in the bushes got reinstated at the same seniority with back pay.
So was that lazy administration now having to issue back pay and PTO, or was it a clever administration who canned them beyond the window knowing it wouldn't hold and they'd get their guys back?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:39 pm to BayouBlitz
quote:I think I've made the difference between my departments and this department abundantly clear. You may want to go back and read some of my posts in this thread.
Would you and your cop buddies stood around for an hour while a nut job was shooting kids?
I get it's an extremely difficult job. Now grow some balls and try to save kids.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:40 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
not a reply to last poster
The cops definitely are not looking good here. But how about them announcing that the door was UNLOCKED and he just went on inside...this is 100% NEGLIGENT on the part of the school. I can't believe a school anywhere in this country could still be leaving doors unlocked.
The cops definitely are not looking good here. But how about them announcing that the door was UNLOCKED and he just went on inside...this is 100% NEGLIGENT on the part of the school. I can't believe a school anywhere in this country could still be leaving doors unlocked.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:42 pm to skeeter531
That is the biggest issue in this shooting. Planned shootings can hit every school. It can't be prevented if it is planned.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:42 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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Ok I can be reasonable about this. You have to secure the scene. You can't have a flood of distraught parents rushing into an active shooting to save their children. I get why they'd want to, I get why they can't be allowed. A crime scene doesn't work like that any time.
Can you elaborate on why?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:43 pm to moneyg
For one, now who is the shooter if the shooting stops?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:44 pm to Crimsonians
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Well, you are the one that thinks cops are the ones that lock a school down.
No, I don’t. I assume your husband is a shitty cop.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:44 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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But I absolutely hate Whitlocks take there that a cop would hesitate in that moment for fear of persecution after the fact. That's a bullshite take.
On a macro level he's 100% on the mark. It's not even a question.
Having said that, in this situation at a school with children, there's no justification no matter what.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:46 pm to Lsuhoohoo
They look bad. .. questions need to be asked and answered but todays defund anti-cop climate doesn’t help when you are asking them to lay it all on the line…
I don’t agree with it but when you’ve been told you aren’t required to protect while also being blamed constantly for all the ills of certain demographics then you inherently are going to play it cautiously to protect your life, your fellow officers and your job
I don’t agree with it but when you’ve been told you aren’t required to protect while also being blamed constantly for all the ills of certain demographics then you inherently are going to play it cautiously to protect your life, your fellow officers and your job
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:47 pm to moneyg
It sounds like complaining about the refs after losing the game.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:50 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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Hard to have worse optics than standing outside while kids get shot and preventing parents from going into the school to save their kids.
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Ok I can be reasonable about this. You have to secure the scene. You can't have a flood of distraught parents rushing into an active shooting to save their children.
Then somebody better damn well be rushing in if they have weapons to keep me out. If they aren’t they’d have to shoot me in the back to save me from getting shot in the front I guess
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:51 pm to the808bass
When it is asked why wasn't the school locked down and that is another thing the cops screwed up, and the response is yeah, that is SOP, that isn't thinking the cops lock down a school?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:53 pm to Crimsonians
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Non cops don't think of all the possible scenarios.
Do you have a law enforcement background? After reading your posts in this thread I hope not.
You don’t set a perimeter first thing in an active shooter scenario, you go towards the gunfire. Columbine changed all that shite.
The director of DHS said it himself in his conference… police followed him in, engaged and were fired upon and backed out… his attempt to make that sound reasonable is absolutely ridiculous. You don’t retreat from an active shooter.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:53 pm to skeeter531
quote:Like most things, blame rarely lies with one element of the equation. Improving just a little in a few areas could have really turned the tables here.
The cops definitely are not looking good here. But how about them announcing that the door was UNLOCKED and he just went on inside...this is 100% NEGLIGENT on the part of the school. I can't believe a school anywhere in this country could still be leaving doors unlocked.
No SRO. No restricted access. Apparently poor planning or no planning for active shooters.
An SRO, a locked door and proper response might have made all the difference.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:57 pm to Crimsonians
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that isn't thinking the cops lock down a school?
It’s the school’s SOP here in the city. Anytime there’s an active threat within a certain radius, the school locks down.
Are you trying to win a contest?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:58 pm to HughsWorkPhone
And what you don't need after you rush in is a kid screaming DAD!!!!
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:59 pm to PaperTiger
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You dont think there is any truth to this? I think all LEO have to double think situations now. Its fricking absurd. You can thank George Floyd and democrats for that
Double think?
Did they double think pulling tazzers on parents? They werent just not stopping the shooter. Dont wanna be a hero, fine.
But stopping people WILLING to be a hero? frick out of here
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