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The Consequences Of Liberal Naivety: Hurting What You Intend To Help

Posted on 11/25/17 at 6:37 pm
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 11/25/17 at 6:37 pm
And leaving a mess for others to clean up.

From the WSJ: The Rise and Fall of a Law-School Empire Fueled by Federal Loans

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Don Lively’s mission to offer legal education to students rejected elsewhere is coming unraveled


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Don Lively had a plan to bring more blacks and Hispanics into the practice of law. Mr. Lively, a professor who is white, set out to open a law school that would take minority students even if they had low test scores or did poorly in college. Using retirement savings, a loan from his father and a check from a retired couple who read about him in a local newspaper, he opened Florida Coastal School of Law in 1996 in Jacksonville. That school and two others he later helped run—Arizona Summit in Phoenix and Charlotte School of Law in North Carolina—became among the fastest-growing law schools in the country. Half of their students were from minority groups. The for-profit schools became part of a business network called the InfiLaw System, backed by Chicago private-equity investors. Enrollment soared from several dozen at Florida Coastal in 1996 to roughly 4,000 at the three schools combined in 2012.


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Now, two decades after it all started, Mr. Lively’s mission is in tatters. The Charlotte school closed in August after North Carolina revoked its license. Enrollment in Arizona and Florida is down sharply, and InfiLaw is looking for buyers for both schools. Thousands of InfiLaw students have dropped out, transferred or failed state bar exams and are struggling to pay down a total of more than $1 billion in federal student loans, Education Department and American Bar Association data indicate. Many owe more than $100,000.


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Taxpayers could wind up on the hook for large chunks of InfiLaw student debt that never gets paid back, and the student borrowers face years of damaged credit.


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Mr. Lively, a graduate of the University of California, Berkeley, was teaching law at a public university in the early 1990s and had become frustrated, he says, with faculty egos and a lack of innovation at traditional law schools. He believed admissions practices hurt blacks and Hispanics.


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In the mid-1990s, Mr. Lively met Bernie and Rita Turner, a retired couple in their 70s who had started Walden University, now owned by for-profit Laureate Education Inc. The couple liked his social mission. “What do you do with this mass of people that don’t have the breaks that the more affluent have?” asks Mr. Turner. He and his wife invested 40% of the roughly $1.4 million Mr. Lively used to start Florida Coastal.


I know this may sound tough, and even mean in the minds of some, but a lot of people are not cut out to be lawyers or doctors...even if they really want to be.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 11/25/17 at 6:49 pm to
Lol what could go wrong, Lawschool for minorities with bad grades and low test scores
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
23279 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 6:55 pm to
A lot of people are not cut out for college, period; much less law or medical school. Need more tradesmen. Cultivating this idea that you have to have a college degree to be successful has hurt the country in my opinion.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/25/17 at 6:55 pm to
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he for-profit schools became part of a business network called the InfiLaw System, backed by Chicago private-equity investors
red flag there's a scam in play
Posted by teke184
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/25/17 at 6:58 pm to
The big barrier to minorities IMHO has been getting bumped up a tier to schools which are more prestigious but harder for them to succeed at.

Bumping up tier 2 candidates to tier 1 schools has a domino effect where tier 3 candidates get bumped to tier 2 schools, etc, which means few if any minorities end up at a school they are academically prepared for, which raises the chances of failure and being saddled with loans that can’t be repaid.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/25/17 at 6:59 pm to
Think of all those minority perps (guilty and innocent) that were poorly defended by ill-equipped, affirmative-action lawyers.
Posted by GeauxElliott
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
3732 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 7:01 pm to
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Taxpayers could wind up on the hook for large chunks of InfiLaw student debt that never gets paid back, and the student borrowers face years of damaged credit


I'm sick of this shite...
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 11/25/17 at 7:01 pm to
Sometimes, if you suck at school in undergrad, it's a shock you suck at it in grad school.

Can't fudge the bar though. That's what gets idiots like this.
Posted by Radler_the_weinerdog
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 11/25/17 at 7:33 pm to
Obviously this effort eventually failed, but it was a noble idea.
Bit disingenuous to not mention how many people this program helped in addition to the eventual failure
Posted by indianswim
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Member since Jan 2010
22124 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 7:39 pm to
Is it disingenuous to not mention the people who have benefited from communism in Venezuela when reporting on it?

No. Because when something fails that hard, it’s just bad. The fact that taxpayers could be on the hook for this should make you hate this.
Posted by Radler_the_weinerdog
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 11/25/17 at 7:43 pm to
Right, because totalitarian government and educating minorities is the same in high and righty world.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 11/25/17 at 7:47 pm to
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Obviously this effort eventually failed, but it was a noble idea.


Thanks for summing up the last 200 years of progressive thought
Posted by indianswim
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Posted on 11/25/17 at 7:47 pm to
Then you should donate your money to such a charitable and worthy cause.
This post was edited on 11/25/17 at 7:48 pm
Posted by Radler_the_weinerdog
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Posted on 11/25/17 at 7:49 pm to
Any time I can show a Trumpazoid his brain can be used for contemplating scratching his butt, I’ll take it
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 11/25/17 at 7:52 pm to
Please don’t insult President Donald J. Trump
Posted by Radler_the_weinerdog
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Posted on 11/25/17 at 7:59 pm to
You’re right! Especially if I did it on Twitter. Even if he never heard of me, I’d be all over the news, victim of another of his classic mean nicknames.
Dummy dachshund.... how could I endure the shame?
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 11/25/17 at 8:02 pm to
Are you off your meds?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/25/17 at 8:17 pm to
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Lol what could go wrong, Lawschool for minorities with bad grades and low test scores

What is Southern's bar pass rate? 30%?
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 8:29 am to
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What is Southern's bar pass rate? 30%


LINK
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 8:35 am to
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Bumping up tier 2 candidates to tier 1 schools has a domino effect where tier 3 candidates get bumped to tier 2 schools, etc, which means few if any minorities end up at a school they are academically prepared for, which raises the chances of failure and being saddled with loans that can’t be repaid


This is actually a well-documented problem to. But the left doesn't care. Have you ever noticed that they focus almost entirely on admissions diversity statistics but almost never talked about graduation diversity statistics at those same schools? This isn't an accident
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