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re: The coming automobile market collapse and what it means

Posted on 7/24/22 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7279 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 3:45 pm to
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There simply are not enough electric vehicles for this policy to ever even be floated.


Like that's ever stopped the govt from enacting a bad policy before.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5851 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 3:46 pm to
Sub prime auto should have been regulated to death just like sub prime home loans.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71421 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 3:53 pm to
Thanks dems for making our population stupid and give loans to idiots.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15602 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

The next 18-24 months are going to be painful for your car salesman friends

Meh frick em.
The good ones will stay in business and we will come out of this ahead.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
5618 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 3:55 pm to
I'm waiting for the Mad Max style DIY jalopy scene. When they leave us with no choice. It's gonna be badass
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10564 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 3:57 pm to
Wait, you're telling me a GMC Sierra isn't worth $65,000 and your average consumer can't afford it.

Naw. I don't believe you. Check your numbers.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30196 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

There simply are not enough electric vehicles for this policy to ever even be floated.


There also aren’t enough repo men to get all the cars back.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51820 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 4:03 pm to
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with no bail out.


I'll believe that when I see it.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51575 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

There simply are not enough electric vehicles for this policy to ever even be floated.


Nor do we have the production capacity. Current production is around 700k/yr.

quote:

NO matter how big the crash, this ain't the goal.


I disagree. Biden's goal is to force the US into more green energies. The fastest method (the one which provides the quickest increase in numbers they can use in visuals) is to push more EV purchases. It doesn't matter if people default on their ICE vehicles because it takes them off the road (another number for another visual) and, ideally (to the administration), it means when they are ready and able to buy another vehicle they're more likely to choose an EV.

The reality of production capacity and actual supply is every bit as irrelevant as is the lack of grid capacity and the true limits of the technology. Long-serving political leaders like him know what they want the world to be like and will push to make it so, regardless of how far from reality it truly is and their people will do their damnedest to push the believability of their lies so their "leaders" will never have to admit they were wrong.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15097 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 4:12 pm to
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It doesn't matter if people default on their ICE vehicles because it takes them off the road


The repossessed ICE cars would be sold at auction and be back on the road
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
5618 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 4:16 pm to
It's infuriating the don't make an affordable full size truck anymore. Just make a bare bones trim of the F-150 and Silverado, no added options. You can still have your 80k suburban luxury trim with leather and Bluetooth. Just make the affordable option also and tons of people will buy it. How much productivity is being lost on farms and work sites these days because you have no choice but to try to repair the old truck? It's just unreal. They're shitting all over the people who made these the best selling vehicles in the country and they're burning their own money chasing the suburban crowd.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 4:18 pm to
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Today that number has exploded. Its 10% in Texas and 23% in DC. Nationwide, its around 9%.
Good. Maybe we can get all these shitboys in their paper-tag stimmie Challengers off the road and back on their sisters' bicycles where they belong.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35391 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 4:19 pm to
No one is doing a bailout for auto loans. Where do you come up with this nonsense?
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
17961 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 4:20 pm to
Say bye bye to selling what is basically work trucks for $30,000. Prices have needed to be reset for a long time.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95331 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 4:23 pm to
Combine that with sales prices spiking and those notes have to be insane.

I’m hoping my current beater can last several more years and keep me from having to exchange a kidney for my next one.
Posted by Hawkeye here
Member since Jul 2022
194 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 4:28 pm to
I always pay cash for new vehicles.

Shocked that 85 percent finance.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19307 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 4:30 pm to
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There also aren’t enough repo men to get all the cars back.



So you become selective with what you repo. When choosing between a Chevy Equinox and a Nissan Rogue, which one fetches more at resale?
This post was edited on 7/24/22 at 4:31 pm
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
17545 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 4:35 pm to
That resale market is going to reset the whole market. The banks need to get on the phones with consumers and start renegotiating those rates down.
Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2007
3228 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 4:37 pm to
So glad I converted my lease to a purchase this month. I got a purchase price based off the cost of the vehicle when I leased in 2019 and enter the financing with $3-4k in equity.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17694 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 4:38 pm to
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Everything is by design.


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