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Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:21 am to Jjdoc
quote:Good Lord.
It was his actions that caused her death. He shot the cop that resulted in her death. If he does not shoot, she is alive today.
I must assume that you are babbling about the felony murder rule.
Problem: the rule presupposes commission of an underlying felony.
The boyfriend was clean and simply defending himself and the residence from invasion by violent, unknown persons. If the thugs had NOT been cops, even you would be calling him a "hero."
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:23 am to Toomer Deplorable
quote:It would seem that you and I have finally found common ground.
Victim blaming.
All it took was a completely unjustified killing by law enforcement
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:28 am to EA6B
quote:We can squabble all day about the credibility of the one single witness who turns up six months later and claims that the cops did announce themselves (even if there are many, many more who say otherwise).
He shot a unidentified intruder that broke into the apartment where he was sleeping, that it turned it to be a cop after the fact is not relevant. The cops are the ones that put everyone in the apt at risk.
But the simple fact is that the facts of this case simply did not justify a forced-entry warrant, REGARDLESS of whether it was announced or not and REGARDLESS of whether they beat on the door before they knocked it down with a battering ram.
Violent felons and murder suspects? maybe
The girlfriend of a low-level drug dealer? Bitch, please.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:30 am to AggieHank86
quote:
All it took was a completely unjustified killing by law enforcement
A nearly year long investigation said it was a fully justified shooting.
You live in clown world.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:32 am to Jjdoc
quote:JJBot believes the single, solitary witness who supports the cops ... and chooses to ignore the dozen who say the opposite.
No. They did announce. They did knock.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:36 am to the808bass
quote:The cops wanted to search her house.quote:There’s zero evidence Taylor was dealing drugs either. So not sure of your point.
The fact is, you are not dealing drugs out of your homes either.
In JJBot-world, she is already a hardened felon.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:40 am to narddogg81
quote:Devil's Advocate.
The police did announce themselves and knock. He should be prosecuted at least for attempted murder of a police officer. The the friggin neighbors heard the police, we are expected to believe people inside didn't? We are expected to believe he died a warning shot into the cops femoral artery?
Just like Kyle Rittenhouse, I completely believe that he was defending himself and justified in his use of force.
It IT interesting that Rittenhouse was charged and will have to meet the burden of proof on his affirmative defense in court, but Walker will not be required to do so.
It is ALSO interesting that many of the same people who are screaming that Rittenhouse should NOT have been charged ... are among those arguing that Walker SHOULD be charged.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:40 am to AggieHank86
quote:
The cops wanted to search her house.
So? They had probable cause to think there was criminal activity going on. They obtained a warrant and it went sideways.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:41 am to Jjdoc
quote:It certainly says that he heard someone beating on his door in the middle of the night. It does NOT necessarily say that they announced themselves. To the contrary, the fact that witnesses are reported to have heard them screaming "who is it" tends to argue quite the opposite.
After announcing and knocking. The guy had enough time to get from his bed, get a gun, move into position and take aim prior to the door being busted down.
That says he knew they were there and he heard the announcement.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:44 am to Jjdoc
quote:He does not even see the irony.quote:But one did... and that's all that's needed to confirm it.
One neighbor said that, multiple said they didn't hear anything.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:47 am to Bmath
quote:Are you new?
It’s not even contested information that Walker heard the knock. That is in his official police statement.
JJBot will continue to argue a point that absolutely NO ONE is contesting, because he thinks it strengthens his case on an unrelated point. It is what he does.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:48 am to AggieHank86
Is there any further explanation as to why the police chose to revise their plan to a knock and announce situation rather than the no knock warrant that they had available to them? I'm pretty curious about that. Perhaps I've simply overlooked the LPD explanation for that.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:50 am to davyjones
quote:
Is there any further explanation as to why the police chose to revise their plan to a knock and announce situation rather than the no knock warrant that they had available to them? I'm pretty curious about that. Perhaps I've simply overlooked the LPD explanation for that.
My understanding is that they had info indicating she was alone.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:52 am to AggieHank86
quote:
It certainly says that he heard someone beating on his door in the middle of the night. It does NOT necessarily say that they announced themselves. To the contrary, the fact that witnesses are reported to have heard them screaming "who is it" tends to argue quite the opposite.
That was what was reported by KW and BTs lawyers. Not credible.
Also, why knock repeatedly and not announce? Makes zero sense.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 8:54 am
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:53 am to Willie Stroker
quote:Well, it was a warrant that they obtained using an affidavit that contained a number of outright lies (e.g. claiming that Taylor had surveillance cameras to detect police approach and that she had a history of violently resisting arrest and fleeing officers, among other things. I posted the affidavit yesterday.) ...quote:The cops were legally there serving a lawful purpose as documented by a judge.
He shot a unidentified intruder that broke into the apartment where he was sleeping, that it turned it to be a cop after the fact is not relevant. The cops are the ones that put everyone in the apt at risk.
so there IS that.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:54 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Well, it was a warrant that they obtained using an affidavit that contained a number of outright lies (e.g. claiming that Taylor had surveillance cameras to detect police approach and that she had a history of violently resisting arrest and fleeing officers, among other things. I posted the affidavit yesterday.) ...
so there IS that.
....and this is on the 3 cops how?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:55 am to Jjdoc
quote:
The Boyfriend should be charged for the death of Taylor
Agreed 100%.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:55 am to Rebel
quote:
A nearly year long investigation said it was a fully justified shooting.
You live in clown world.
Liberal Hank the attorney
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:57 am to South Tiger
quote:Good Lord, this happy horseshite again?
Everyone knows that he shot through the damn door right?
With ONE exception, the reports indicate that he fired AFTER the police knocked-down the door with a battering ram. But ONE reporter gets the facts twisted, and HER you believe ... because her fantasy (or honest mistake?) supports the cops.
The bootlicking is entertaining.
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