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re: The biggest lie, that has caused the great division between the left and the right…

Posted on 4/9/19 at 1:19 am to
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 1:19 am to
If the left could just accept eugenics, we’d all be friends.

What fricking drivel.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
45982 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 5:55 am to
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The myth of “equality” is the seed from which all this division stems.


I think it has to be ignited by the match of "RACISM!!!!"

Has there ever been an instance of this "equality" myth taking control of a racially homogeneous nation???
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24078 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:23 am to
Your argument is a bit of a straw man. Most on the left do not think we’re all 100% equal in ability. It’s more that they believe that people who have made poor choices in life are victims of their environments; a black kid in Detroit knocks over a convienence store because the people he grew up around encouraged that kind of choice. Whereas a white kid in Covington does not have the same peer pressure.

There is merit to this and some definite research to back it up. HOWEVER, the left de-emphasizes a person’s agency and ownership of their own choices. The right tends to be the opposite, de-emphasizing the environment. Both are important factors, but in the end, everyone has free will.

People are not victims. They are sentient agents acting either rationally or irrationally based off external and internal factors. The left in my opinion, views other people too much through their own experiences. What I mean is, they assume other people think just like they do, and if given the opportunity, will behave and think just like them. That is contrary to reality. A poor dumb kid from rural DCR will kill you for your clothes if he has the chance there. If you bring him to America and give him housing, food, clothes, and the opportunity for employment in the USA, it’s very likely he’ll still kill you for whatever you have that he doesn’t.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52082 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:44 am to
I've started many threads on this topic. It's the biggest lie ever told to the American public.

What the left had twisted this into is equal results, also a lie.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
31539 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 7:10 am to
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And what happens when one believes that all people are born truly “equal”? When the outcomes aren’t equal, it must mean one group has cheated or held another back. It breeds jealously for those in a group that hasn’t achieved as much as others. It breeds guilt in some members of a more successful group.


Harrison Bergeron anyone?
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
31539 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 7:12 am to
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If the left could just accept eugenics, we’d all be friends.


I mean, they did about a century ago.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39775 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 7:13 am to
Equality versus equity

Notice the shift in the language and you’ll see why the left and right have diverged aongreatly in the past decade.
Posted by MoLiberty
Member since Aug 2018
780 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 7:24 am to
“The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal.” - Aristotle
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
18423 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:10 am to
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If the left could just accept eugenics, we’d all be friends.

What fricking drivel.
indeed.

After all, dysgenics seems to be working so much better.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59309 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:14 am to
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The left interprets this to mean that all people are born equal in ability


I think it's worse than you realize.

The left interprets that to mean equal results regardless of ability or effort.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92488 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:27 am to
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But the other truth is that we, even in 2019, can not fully achieve equality under the law.


The perfect is the enemy of the good. We're never "fully" going to do anything.

All we can do to eliminate racial discrimination is to stop discriminating on the basis of race. All the flailing around, particularly since 1964 has only served to prolong this. Like peeling of a bandage in super slow motion.

quote:

Haiti isn't a good example.


I think it is a fine example. Just look at the DR - on the same island. I'm not saying that Haiti's problems are 100% the fault of the Haitian people. Just mostly their fault.

quote:

In Japans case, they had 200 years of isolationism


So, the isolation hurt Haiti and helped Japan?

I'm confused now.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
12318 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:38 am to
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If the left could just accept eugenics, we’d all be friends. 

What fricking drivel

Could you elaborate on how you reached "eugenics" from accepting that individuals have evolved differently abled?
Do you truly believe that all people are 100% equal in ability?
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
54358 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:40 am to
Well the left is doing a GREAT job of making sure they have their own sets of laws as well. So I would say they are winning on all fronts here with this "equality" crap.

They are clearly more equal than the right.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
115596 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:25 am to
The egalitarian strategy is very effective because it taps into the human emotion of envy.

OTOH, the freedom strategy is the reason the Libertarian Party is 90% male. When your pitch to a woman is: 'Hey, you're on your own' it scares the shite out of them.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:49 am to
Again, the most important line our forefathers established was "the pursuit of happiness." Happiness is an individual state of mind, not a think tank set of material goods/services one must check a list of boxes in order to possess. Its also not guaranteed, but the pursuit of it is available to any and all citizens.

Liberals have difficulty with this concept. OPSS (Other Peoples shite Syndrome) combined with TDS is a danger to our society
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