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Posted on 4/9/19 at 5:55 am to Smeg
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The myth of “equality” is the seed from which all this division stems.
I think it has to be ignited by the match of "RACISM!!!!"
Has there ever been an instance of this "equality" myth taking control of a racially homogeneous nation???
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:23 am to Smeg
Your argument is a bit of a straw man. Most on the left do not think we’re all 100% equal in ability. It’s more that they believe that people who have made poor choices in life are victims of their environments; a black kid in Detroit knocks over a convienence store because the people he grew up around encouraged that kind of choice. Whereas a white kid in Covington does not have the same peer pressure.
There is merit to this and some definite research to back it up. HOWEVER, the left de-emphasizes a person’s agency and ownership of their own choices. The right tends to be the opposite, de-emphasizing the environment. Both are important factors, but in the end, everyone has free will.
People are not victims. They are sentient agents acting either rationally or irrationally based off external and internal factors. The left in my opinion, views other people too much through their own experiences. What I mean is, they assume other people think just like they do, and if given the opportunity, will behave and think just like them. That is contrary to reality. A poor dumb kid from rural DCR will kill you for your clothes if he has the chance there. If you bring him to America and give him housing, food, clothes, and the opportunity for employment in the USA, it’s very likely he’ll still kill you for whatever you have that he doesn’t.
There is merit to this and some definite research to back it up. HOWEVER, the left de-emphasizes a person’s agency and ownership of their own choices. The right tends to be the opposite, de-emphasizing the environment. Both are important factors, but in the end, everyone has free will.
People are not victims. They are sentient agents acting either rationally or irrationally based off external and internal factors. The left in my opinion, views other people too much through their own experiences. What I mean is, they assume other people think just like they do, and if given the opportunity, will behave and think just like them. That is contrary to reality. A poor dumb kid from rural DCR will kill you for your clothes if he has the chance there. If you bring him to America and give him housing, food, clothes, and the opportunity for employment in the USA, it’s very likely he’ll still kill you for whatever you have that he doesn’t.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 6:44 am to Smeg
I've started many threads on this topic. It's the biggest lie ever told to the American public.
What the left had twisted this into is equal results, also a lie.
What the left had twisted this into is equal results, also a lie.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 7:10 am to Smeg
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And what happens when one believes that all people are born truly “equal”? When the outcomes aren’t equal, it must mean one group has cheated or held another back. It breeds jealously for those in a group that hasn’t achieved as much as others. It breeds guilt in some members of a more successful group.
Harrison Bergeron anyone?
Posted on 4/9/19 at 7:12 am to FT
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If the left could just accept eugenics, we’d all be friends.
I mean, they did about a century ago.

Posted on 4/9/19 at 7:13 am to fillmoregandt
Equality versus equity
Notice the shift in the language and you’ll see why the left and right have diverged aongreatly in the past decade.
Notice the shift in the language and you’ll see why the left and right have diverged aongreatly in the past decade.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 7:24 am to Smeg
“The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal.” - Aristotle
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:10 am to FT
quote:indeed.
If the left could just accept eugenics, we’d all be friends.
What fricking drivel.
After all, dysgenics seems to be working so much better.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:14 am to Smeg
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The left interprets this to mean that all people are born equal in ability
I think it's worse than you realize.
The left interprets that to mean equal results regardless of ability or effort.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:27 am to volod
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But the other truth is that we, even in 2019, can not fully achieve equality under the law.
The perfect is the enemy of the good. We're never "fully" going to do anything.
All we can do to eliminate racial discrimination is to stop discriminating on the basis of race. All the flailing around, particularly since 1964 has only served to prolong this. Like peeling of a bandage in super slow motion.
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Haiti isn't a good example.
I think it is a fine example. Just look at the DR - on the same island. I'm not saying that Haiti's problems are 100% the fault of the Haitian people. Just mostly their fault.
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In Japans case, they had 200 years of isolationism
So, the isolation hurt Haiti and helped Japan?
I'm confused now.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:38 am to FT
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If the left could just accept eugenics, we’d all be friends.
What fricking drivel
Could you elaborate on how you reached "eugenics" from accepting that individuals have evolved differently abled?
Do you truly believe that all people are 100% equal in ability?
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:40 am to Smeg
Well the left is doing a GREAT job of making sure they have their own sets of laws as well. So I would say they are winning on all fronts here with this "equality" crap.
They are clearly more equal than the right.
They are clearly more equal than the right.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:25 am to Smeg
The egalitarian strategy is very effective because it taps into the human emotion of envy.
OTOH, the freedom strategy is the reason the Libertarian Party is 90% male. When your pitch to a woman is: 'Hey, you're on your own' it scares the shite out of them.
OTOH, the freedom strategy is the reason the Libertarian Party is 90% male. When your pitch to a woman is: 'Hey, you're on your own' it scares the shite out of them.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:49 am to Smeg
Again, the most important line our forefathers established was "the pursuit of happiness." Happiness is an individual state of mind, not a think tank set of material goods/services one must check a list of boxes in order to possess. Its also not guaranteed, but the pursuit of it is available to any and all citizens.
Liberals have difficulty with this concept. OPSS (Other Peoples shite Syndrome) combined with TDS is a danger to our society
Liberals have difficulty with this concept. OPSS (Other Peoples shite Syndrome) combined with TDS is a danger to our society
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