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re: The bible doesn't forbid homosexuality - the left
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:14 am to Azkiger
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:14 am to Azkiger
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I do believe she is right about Jesus never speaking out against homosexuality, though.
That’s a BS loophole. Jesus spoke about chastity, temperance, and many other vices that homosexual relations violate. The fact that him saying “homosexual” was never recorded doesn’t mean it’s ok.
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Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:15 am to blueboy
In whom the god of this age has blinded the minds of the unbelieving, so as for not to beam forth the illumination of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God
~ 2 Corinthians 4:4
and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.
~ 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12
~ 2 Corinthians 4:4
and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.
~ 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:17 am to blueboy
Source: got questions app
There is a “church” in the United States that promotes the slogan “God hates figs.” This group pickets gay parades, gay bars, gay events, gay funerals, etc. This group also sometimes protests at military funerals, claiming that the soldier was killed because the USA is supporting the homosexual agenda. Is there any truth to their claims? Does God hate gay people?
Proverbs 6:16-19 tells us, “There are six things the LORD hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.” Notice that homosexuality does not make this list. It would be more biblical to promote phrases such as “God hates liars” and “God hates murderers.” While the Bible declares that God hates all workers of iniquity (Psalm 5:5), the Bible nowhere singles out homosexuals as objects of God’s hatred.
That does not mean, however, the Bible approves of homosexuality. The Bible consistently tells us that homosexuality is a sin (Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9). Romans 1:26-27 teaches explicitly that homosexuality is a result of a continual rebellion against God. When people continue in disbelief, the Bible tells us that God “gives them over,” allowing them to experience their sinful desires and the resulting consequences. First Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God. Homosexuality is immoral and unnatural. It is a disruption of the “natural order” and, more importantly, of God’s view of sexuality.
With all that said, the Bible does not describe homosexuality as a greater sin than any other. All sin is offensive to God. Homosexuality is just one of the many things listed in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 that will keep a person from the kingdom of God. According to the Bible, all have sinned and are outside the kingdom of God in their own merit (Romans 3:23; 6:23). No one is good enough. But God’s offer of forgiveness is through Jesus Christ is extended to all people; anyone who puts his faith in Jesus can be forgiven of all his sin and become God’s child (John 1:12; 3:16–18; Ephesians 2:1–10). God’s forgiveness is just as available to a homosexual as it is to an adulterer, fornicator, idol worshiper, thief, greedy person, etc.—it is equally available to all sinners, which is all human beings. God also promises the strength for victory over sin, including homosexuality, to all those who will believe in Jesus Christ for their salvation (2 Corinthians 5:17). First Corinthians 6:11 says, “And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God” (emphasis added).
Does God approve of homosexuality? No. Can a person truly be a Christian and at the same time a practicing homosexual? According to 1 Corinthians 6:9, no. While Christians should stand firm in the biblically based conviction that homosexuality is sin, we must also keep the tone of the message biblically based. Ephesians 4:15 instructs us to “speak the truth...in love.” First Peter 3:15 teaches us to proclaim the truth, but to do so with “gentleness and respect.” Our message should be focused on the forgiveness and freedom from sin that are available through the Lord Jesus Christ.
There is a “church” in the United States that promotes the slogan “God hates figs.” This group pickets gay parades, gay bars, gay events, gay funerals, etc. This group also sometimes protests at military funerals, claiming that the soldier was killed because the USA is supporting the homosexual agenda. Is there any truth to their claims? Does God hate gay people?
Proverbs 6:16-19 tells us, “There are six things the LORD hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.” Notice that homosexuality does not make this list. It would be more biblical to promote phrases such as “God hates liars” and “God hates murderers.” While the Bible declares that God hates all workers of iniquity (Psalm 5:5), the Bible nowhere singles out homosexuals as objects of God’s hatred.
That does not mean, however, the Bible approves of homosexuality. The Bible consistently tells us that homosexuality is a sin (Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9). Romans 1:26-27 teaches explicitly that homosexuality is a result of a continual rebellion against God. When people continue in disbelief, the Bible tells us that God “gives them over,” allowing them to experience their sinful desires and the resulting consequences. First Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God. Homosexuality is immoral and unnatural. It is a disruption of the “natural order” and, more importantly, of God’s view of sexuality.
With all that said, the Bible does not describe homosexuality as a greater sin than any other. All sin is offensive to God. Homosexuality is just one of the many things listed in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 that will keep a person from the kingdom of God. According to the Bible, all have sinned and are outside the kingdom of God in their own merit (Romans 3:23; 6:23). No one is good enough. But God’s offer of forgiveness is through Jesus Christ is extended to all people; anyone who puts his faith in Jesus can be forgiven of all his sin and become God’s child (John 1:12; 3:16–18; Ephesians 2:1–10). God’s forgiveness is just as available to a homosexual as it is to an adulterer, fornicator, idol worshiper, thief, greedy person, etc.—it is equally available to all sinners, which is all human beings. God also promises the strength for victory over sin, including homosexuality, to all those who will believe in Jesus Christ for their salvation (2 Corinthians 5:17). First Corinthians 6:11 says, “And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God” (emphasis added).
Does God approve of homosexuality? No. Can a person truly be a Christian and at the same time a practicing homosexual? According to 1 Corinthians 6:9, no. While Christians should stand firm in the biblically based conviction that homosexuality is sin, we must also keep the tone of the message biblically based. Ephesians 4:15 instructs us to “speak the truth...in love.” First Peter 3:15 teaches us to proclaim the truth, but to do so with “gentleness and respect.” Our message should be focused on the forgiveness and freedom from sin that are available through the Lord Jesus Christ.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:19 am to blueboy
I'm your huckleberry
If Paul was condemning predatory actions, then why didn’t he use the Greek word for it (paiderastes)? Also, why did Paul condemn female same sex couples in Romans when he was only concerned with predatory sex and not same sex relations in general?
Also, arsenokoitai matches the Greek words in the Septuagint’s translation of Leviticus 20:13. The word breaks down to arseno (or “male”) and koite (or “bed”). It literally means “man-bedder.”
If Paul was condemning predatory actions, then why didn’t he use the Greek word for it (paiderastes)? Also, why did Paul condemn female same sex couples in Romans when he was only concerned with predatory sex and not same sex relations in general?
Also, arsenokoitai matches the Greek words in the Septuagint’s translation of Leviticus 20:13. The word breaks down to arseno (or “male”) and koite (or “bed”). It literally means “man-bedder.”
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:21 am to blueboy
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blueboy
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The bible doesn't forbid homosexuality
Checks out.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:22 am to blueboy
He is correct about the words used. That word was not in translations prior to 1946 because Jesus didnt speak english nor was the Bible written in english. It didnt exist. Also pauls use of the term arsenokoitai didnt exist until he used it also. Paul joined the two words to mean “men that bed other men”.
This is another way the left and those who choose to not worship in spirit and truth see the Bible. They shake their fist at God in rebellion. They should repent. The left states Jesus sat and ate with sinners like this. True. But he didnt condone their sin. In fact he said, STOP doing it and to follow him
This is another way the left and those who choose to not worship in spirit and truth see the Bible. They shake their fist at God in rebellion. They should repent. The left states Jesus sat and ate with sinners like this. True. But he didnt condone their sin. In fact he said, STOP doing it and to follow him
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:27 am to Louisianalabguy
Even people back then knew no one considered it proper let alone grown men having sexual relations with each other.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:27 am to blueboy
Arsenos is man (greek)
Koite is bed
It is literally a man who beds a man. The words arsenos and koite would be found next to each other in the Levitical text forbidding homosexuality in the Greek translation of the Old Testament.
Paul made the word up. And everyone knew what it meant. And everyone who is honest with themselves knows what it means now.
Koite is bed
It is literally a man who beds a man. The words arsenos and koite would be found next to each other in the Levitical text forbidding homosexuality in the Greek translation of the Old Testament.
Paul made the word up. And everyone knew what it meant. And everyone who is honest with themselves knows what it means now.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:27 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Was the original marriage valid?
If it wasn’t, that’s adultery too.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:28 am to Zach
Priest are not above mental illness either.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:28 am to blueboy
I don't know about that.
But I do know that it doesn't forbid slavery.
But I do know that it doesn't forbid slavery.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:29 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
Jesus never said pedophilia was bad. We know it is. We don’t need red letters to tell us.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:29 am to Esquire
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What does it say about getting married after a no-fault divorce?
There are a few exceptions in which God will allow legal divorce. (Man's Law -- aka "Civil Law" will of course allow divorce at the drop of a hat.)
Some Christians are not going to like it (and some may well be stunned) on the Lord's official position on Divorce:
Matthew 5:31-32:
“‘It has been said, ‘Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’ But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.’”
Many Christians are not aware of this.
God's Law supersedes man's Civil Law.
It will be a tough test / pill to swallow -- especially for younger divorced Christians. But God awards Obedience.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:31 am to Nosevens
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Priest are not above mental illness either.
OR, demon possession.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:33 am to Liberator
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Many Christians are not aware of this.
They are very aware. It’s just ignored like the left is trying to do with homosexuality. A lot of posters here are going to be surprised by the temperature and company of their afterlife.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:34 am to dstone12
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They want you to cave on homosexuality.
Then in five years, they will create another documentary on how it’s cool to hang out with kids.
Yep...you give them an inch, then they'll want 6 inches.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:34 am to Liberator
Insert Putin meme:
Jesus never said dropping nukes was bad. It’s no where in the text.
Jesus never said dropping nukes was bad. It’s no where in the text.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:34 am to coachcrisp
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Leviticus 20:13 "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."Ummm...that's pretty direct!...
How can they deny this?
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:35 am to blueboy
There are many translations that aren't 1 to 1 in the old testament. People need to understand that most languages aren't as complex as English and are hard to accurately translate.
Considering that the bible is heavily metaphorical I would be careful taking passages literally anyway.
That being said, I don't need the bible to tell me that molesting children is wrong, it is obvious and people who seek to do so should be punished.
Considering that the bible is heavily metaphorical I would be careful taking passages literally anyway.
That being said, I don't need the bible to tell me that molesting children is wrong, it is obvious and people who seek to do so should be punished.
This post was edited on 12/10/22 at 9:36 am
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:37 am to AUCom96
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It's the same MO as the left always takes.
X doesn't mean what you think it means. Here is "an expert" (government funded academic) to tell you why.
Climate change
gender
homosexuality
race
political philosophy
medical facts and theories
It goes on and on. It often employs a "documentary" for credibility as well. It's also usually bullshite.
Yep, everything, and I mean EVERYTHING is twisted to fit the same tired ole tropes:
-Climate change
-racial politics
-LGBTQ
-Rich people bad
Everything you can think of: from school shootings or a winter freeze to the opening of a Chick-fil-a or lackluster movie profit. It all gets funneled and then twisted to fit one of the above topics. Reality be damned.
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