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re: The bible doesn't forbid homosexuality - the left

Posted on 12/10/22 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
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Posted on 12/10/22 at 4:31 pm to
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Ive never considered that. Seems like there'd be some remnant of a legend surrounding it if that were the case
If the two Kingdoms developed independently, it just makes a certain amount of sense that each would have had a Temple, since Judaism and the Samaritan religion are so very similar. Especially since the two Kingdoms seem to perhaps have been antagonistic to one another on a regular basis.

No evidence of which I am aware. Just an intriguing notion.

Maybe the ongoing excavations in Samaria will give us some useful clues.
This post was edited on 12/10/22 at 4:36 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
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Posted on 12/10/22 at 4:47 pm to
I also consider the possibility that the Samaritans are CORRECT in asserting that theirs is the more-original form of the Abrahamic religion, in that their Torah reflects the document as it existed BEFORE the Judean hostages were taken to Babylon and revised their Scriptures with the Priestly sources.

It would have been easy for the Jerusalem version of the sect to prevail, given that it had the support of the Persians.

I've never read any scholarship to the effect, but it is an intriguing notion.

One weekend, I would like to sit down with both the Samaritan and Judaic versions and look at the differences.
This post was edited on 12/10/22 at 4:50 pm
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 12/10/22 at 4:51 pm to
Whether or not all sin is equivalent is irrelevant, all sin can be forgiven except one and we could debate from here to eternity what blasphemy truly means.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 12/10/22 at 4:56 pm to
You are preaching to the choir. I agree
Posted by oldskule
Down South
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Posted on 12/10/22 at 4:57 pm to
1946????? That is not a Bible date, sorry.
Posted by faraway
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Posted on 12/10/22 at 5:00 pm to
it is self evident that homosexuality is wrong. no one needs it explained. the a-hole is not a sex organ.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/10/22 at 5:06 pm to
The left doing what the left does.

Making up lies. Keep repeating them until you have a generation of people who have been raised hearing the lie. Then attack anyone who challenges the lie and bully them to repeat it.

ETA. Just like they have a generation of people who think the Republican Party is responsible for enslaving black people.
This post was edited on 12/10/22 at 5:11 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28073 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 5:22 pm to
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In regards to Jesus, it’s an argument from silence.


Not true, he addresses it in Matthew 15/Mark 7.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
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Posted on 12/10/22 at 5:37 pm to
Another interesting discussion. Thanks.
Posted by bendellee
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 12/10/22 at 5:41 pm to
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”If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable…” - Leviticus 20:13


Fun fact. Leviticus also forbids wearing blended suits and eating catfish.

Not denying the NT texts on the issue. But I wouldn’t think any of us really want to use the Old Testament as a moral compass.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 12/10/22 at 5:46 pm to
they way I understand the Catholic faith of this is that somebody can be gay...that's not a problem. However acting on that urge to fornicate is what is wrong.

Two gays can live together as brothers and/or sisters but can fornicate because the act of procreation cannot be completed and it's a sin to fornicate outside of marriage...which is not allowed in the Catholic faith as it is between a man and a woman (multiple places in the Bible)
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3227 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 5:54 pm to
I couldn't care less who someone wants to shake the sheets with. Move on. It's the trans community that are vile and trying to push their pedophilic agenda on everyone. And I don't need the Bible to make them disgusting. They are an offense to nature and and mankind.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29722 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 5:59 pm to
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Fun fact. Leviticus also forbids wearing blended suits and eating catfish.

Not denying the NT texts on the issue. But I wouldn’t think any of us really want to use the Old Testament as a moral compass.


Fun fact. Homosexual activity is also called an abomination in the New Testament. As Christians, we rely upon both to guide us.

Another poster in this thread explained it well (Foo, Rev, or RCD, I believe).
Posted by bendellee
Member since Aug 2006
2434 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 6:03 pm to
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Fun fact. Homosexual activity is also called an abomination in the New Testament. As Christians, we rely upon both to guide us.


Next time, read my entire comment next time before hitting reply.
Posted by LSU4Life2021
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 12/10/22 at 6:07 pm to
I’d rather err on the side of caution than take that chance
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 12/10/22 at 6:20 pm to
IIRC, It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
23168 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 6:20 pm to
Leviticus is not the only place in the Old Testament where homosexuality is condemed. The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah in the book of Genesis makes the case pretty clear.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 12/10/22 at 6:22 pm to
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
18376 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 6:38 pm to
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Sodom and Gomorrah


We all know what sodomy is, but wtf was going down in Gomorrah that no one will even speak it?

WTF is Gomorrahry?!
Posted by bendellee
Member since Aug 2006
2434 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 6:48 pm to
I’ll recant (and I guess apologize) for the tone of my prior post. It seems like maybe you did read the whole thing. But it also seemed like you ignored my acknowledgment of the New Testament texts on the issue.

Here‘s the deal. We pick and choose the parts of the Old Testament we want to follow. There is stuff in there we’d get mad about if it was written by modern authors and put in our school libraries. And, I know a lot of it is a chronicle of judeo-(pre)Christian record. But there are a whole lot of rules in the Old Testament that we ignore (not the infant penis modification part, of course)

Like you said, it is a guide. But only as to the parts that we want to guide us.
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