re: The attacks on America’s Judeo-Christian foundation and how that founding came to be

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So Greek education being a foundation for education in the Western Culture can't be cited because of something that occurred in the interim? That argument makes no sense.

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This has to be intentional dude

There is no other explanation for "we should talk about Greco Roman foundation but absolutely nothing else"

It's bizarre

The reason is because Western culture stems from a merging of Classical Greek and Roman institutions and knowledge with Germanic, Gallo, Celtic, and Nordic traditions, and Christian values and philosophy. This Christian philosophy has its bedrock, its foundation in Judaism.

Islam was not used as the basis for this civilization, and in fact, branched off from it. In many ways, Western civilization crystallized from its struggles against Islam, whether its the Crusades, Charles Martel, the Winged Hussars, or the Reconquista.

Islam does not use the Old Testament teachings nor the New, but only uses them to claim them as a birthright while repudiating them on a spiritual, legal, and philosophical level. A lot less of the Old Testament’s philosophy made it into Islamic practices than did into Catholic ones. And almost zero Christian philosophy made its way into Islam.

Western Civilization is one branch of the Abrahamic tree, and Islam branched off of it long ago to be a distinct civilization.

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This Christian philosophy has its bedrock, its foundation in Judaism.

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In many ways it rejected Judaism though, specifically

As you said later about Islam. This applies to Judaism:

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was not used as the basis for this civilization, and in fact, branched off from it.

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In many ways, Western civilization crystallized from its struggles against Islam, whether its the Crusades, Charles Martel, the Winged Hussars, or the Reconquista.

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Sure, but that doesn't mean it isn't foundational in its influence, from the same cultural-religious sourcing.

I wouldn't specifically argue Islam is a major part of Western culture, but it's much more impactful than Judaism. And arguing the same religious/cultural foundation includes Islam, too. If we include Judeo, we kind of have to include Islamic, too. I'm perfectly fine leaving out both and lumping them in with the "Germanic, Gallo, Celtic, and Nordic traditions" you referenced.

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He is the one who tried to prohibit discussions preemptively and I showed the poor rhetoric involved in this attempt.

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Your premise in this thread is that giving Christianity credit for the West is in error

You wouldn’t argue that Jesus’s teachings aren’t heavily rooted in Jewish ones? I think you’re splitting hairs and engaging in some pretty serious naval gazing if you’re going to do that. Jesus was literally a rabbi. Everything he preached stemmed from the Old Testament. Some of it also included concepts with analogs from the classical tradition (Greeks), but to argue Jesus as not rooted in Judaism is just wrong.

Mike da Tiger, excellent post! I like Prager U. I watched the entire video. It was definitely educational and informative. The host was correct when suggesting folks to get a pen and paper, soooooo much to digest.

I didn't care for the end as it was more objective than subjective.
But the information about our basis of a nation being based in biblical truths is something everyone should hear.
I will order some of this guys books.

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Islam is also the same by that logic

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So, you know little to nothing about either.

"Western Civilization is one branch of the Abrahamic tree, and Islam branched off of it long ago to be a distinct civilization."

Well put and well distilled. Judaism led directly to Christianity, which was fundamental to the development of Western Civilization. Islam was not significant part of that process and instead was fundamental to the rise of different civilization.