re: The American Healthcare System Is The Biggest Pile Of shite Ever Invented

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And people will fricking defend it to the death (literally) before they'll ever consider a universal healthcare plan because "that's socialism"

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In Canada, when their socialized medicine first started, it worked for a while until the bean counters didn't invest in keeping it up. That resulted in long waiting periods or rationing by long lines. People who really need medical care liked to quip, "My dogs and cats get better care." Or they drive down to Buffalo where they can get an MRI same day for $350.

many PCPs are going to concierge models to avoid the financial cluster side of the business. Any good behavioral psychiatrist/psychiatrist has already stopped accepting insurance. You can file your own, but they aren't dealing with it.

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Expand on your point, tell my why.

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Other than getting your claims paid

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Patients neither do this, nor are they generally aware of the fractional payments insurance is or is not paying. In most instances they are happily unaware and disinterested. The same thing is true of the origin of money used in subsidizing ACA policies.

That is not necessarily a criticism, because folks are paying a fortune for horribly inefficient coverage. But laypublic disinterest in their policy's third-party underpayment, and in the mechanics of ACA subsidies are critical to continuation of a bad system

Meh my German friends asked why I didn't want free healthcare?

She had to wait long enough for knee surgery her other knee was damaged.

Told her my son got knee surgery within a week of tearing it up playing football.

Her husband said only rich people get seen that fast.

Listen to Powertwat getting all pissy.

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Nothing you described other than the doctor visit is the health care system.

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You don't think prescription medication cost is part of the healthcare system?

I think you don't know much about this.

Our healthcare system is what happens when a competition-based free enterprise system is supplanted by government control and profit protection.

Capitalism is the best consumer protection there is. When big companies (protected or implanted by the govt) stop competing against each other, and the consumer is given no choice to determine who fails and who succeeds, then consumers are ripe for the fleecing. That’s where we are today with Healthcare. And for those who say “Well, these companies aren’t getting paid by consumers. The govt is paying them insane amounts and driving it up!”, consider WHERE the govt is getting their money. FROM US!

It’s insane that the American public have swallowed the political bull like it’s prime rib, and allowed this to happen!!!! It’s time to stand up to our politicians and hold their feet to the fire on this, making them get their greedy, grubby, bloodstained hands out of our healthcare, quit making their favorite companies too big to fail, and throw them in JAIL for taking/giving bribes under the table. That’s the ONLY thing that will give US citizens relief from the tyranny of our current state of healthcare.

People in this thread are confusing the issue.

The guy is right we don't have a healthcare problem, doctors are more or less solid (could use less DEI), equipment good (if you think its bad go see what they have in third world countries), all sorts of medicine.

The problem is paying for it.

What I think a previous poster was saying was that we do not have a healthcare problem in the USA we have a healthcare INSURANCE problem in the USA.

Healthcare is pretty good, paying for it is the problem.

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The problem is paying for it.

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That's part of the "system"

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No one ever complains about the military and the government has managed that for forever.

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Trump campaigned on “fixing the VA”.