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re: The American Conservative: Dreher on LSU canceling classes

Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:52 pm to
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:52 pm to
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Posted by SCLibertarian
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:53 pm to
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I disagree with the idea of sports being in colleges in the first place unless purely from a recreational standpoint. For many schools they far too often plow money into the football team rather than the biology department, they shift the focus of students away from their books and towards an entertainment event. We are the only nation that does this. 

Compare the academic ranking of a school like Alabama in 2007 to now. Nick Saban has done more for their admissions standards than the university's marketing team.
Posted by BearNickandLadies
Marion County, Alabama
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:15 pm to
Found the anti-semite
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:16 pm to
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Compare the academic ranking of a school like Alabama in 2007 to now. Nick Saban has done more for their admissions standards than the university's marketing team.



Explain how Nick Saban improved Alabama’s admission standards.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 12:03 am to
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We are the only nation that does this.
And yet we have by far the best university system in the world.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 12:04 am to
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Explain how Nick Saban improved Alabama’s admission standards.
I went to the Bama game this year. 1st time I had been on that campus in probably 35 years. There were sparkling new academic buildings everywhere. You think that just came just cuz?
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:27 am to
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Explain how Nick Saban improved Alabama’s admission standards.


Applications increase when a school is successful athletically on a national level. More applications means more denials. Thus, to get the best applicants, admission standards are raised. Even if standards are not directly raised, it indirectly increases through the increased SAT scores and GPAs of incoming freshmen.
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:46 am to
Who would have guessed that an Ivy League educated fellow named Binyamin Applebaum only sees whites as economic widgets to be used and discarded and has nothing but disdain for their cultural celebrations. I sure wouldn't!
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 5:35 am to
Oh nobody.

Can’t believe they’re actually getting a modern dorm.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 6:00 am
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:15 am to
Rod went to the Louisiana School up at NW State.....liberal is not an apt description of the atmosphere there.

I knew Rod when he was on the Reveille staff back in the 1980's. He is/was a relatively serious dude
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:31 am to
At that time it was only Juniors and Seniors so don’t overlook he was at some other high school before that.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 7:32 am
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:32 am to
Why is he an "elite?" He's just an economist, not an engineer or neurosurgeon.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:36 am to
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Compare the academic ranking of a school like Alabama in 2007 to now. Nick Saban has done more for their admissions standards than the university's marketing team.


My wish is, we had the leadership in place at the university and state level to follow a similar course. Sadly, I strongly doubt we do.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:55 am to
gnome has not responded to the answers given to questions about how Saban improved academics at bama.

That is a severely uneducated person. Disturbingly so.

I'll give another example for which there are actual studies: UF. Years ago, anyone could go. Then the football program, followed by the basketball program shot off through the roof. That exposure created significant additional out of state applications so much so that in state individuals are now limited and the acceptable gpa is around 4.0 to even be considered.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109762 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:06 am to
The thing about both places (Bama and Florida) is that they had the leadership in place to capitalize on the notoriety brought to them by their football teams. While the football success certainly brought the initial boost, it took actual university and state level leadership to followthrough into genuine substantive improvements to the schools.

Do we have that in place now?
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7939 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:14 am to
One of my best friends son (and his wife) chose against Florida to go to LSU. They both returned to go to UF law and medical schools.

With that said, they would do it over again in a heartbeat. They loved LSU. Hoping LSU takes advantage and improves as you say.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:16 am to
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Binyamin Appelbaum


Stop that! Culture and community aren't important, only economics! - Binyamin Appelbaum, probably.

I bet he took the day off for his Bar Mitzvah.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42241 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:41 am to
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1st time I had been on that campus in probably 35 years. There were sparkling new academic buildings everywhere. You think that just came just cuz?




Ah, so you’re just making stuff up and assuming it’s fact.

Football powerhouse or not, choose any university in the country and you’ll see new buildings that didn’t exist 35 years ago. Schools have sources of income besides athletics.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 8:42 am
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:44 am to
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This is short changing them for an entertainment event which is nothing but a distraction from what should be the core focus of a university, academic excellence and educating its students.


fricking STUPID and dead arse WRONG. In THIS Constitutional Republic of ours, it is PART of the University experience. If you want something different, renounce your citizenship, become a student at Cambridge and go to a fricking intramural Cricket match.

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I disagree with the idea of sports being in colleges in the first place unless purely from a recreational standpoint. For many schools they far too often plow money into the football team rather than the biology department, they shift the focus of students away from their books and towards an entertainment event.


So pathetically clueless. The United States of America is a uniquely exceptional country, and college football is a part of that experience.

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That said I had great time watching it, Joe Burrow is a machine, and Geaux Tigers.


You aren't worthy of being a Tiger Fan.

"Good Bye, Mr. Chips."
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:49 am to
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Do we have that in place now?


Not since Emmert left.
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