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The ACA: 7 Years Later

Posted on 3/24/17 at 8:57 am
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21895 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 8:57 am
Some facts to think about as your Representatives ponder whether to royally frick you over today at 10 Eastern. (Mine's John Lewis, he's on the right side of history on this vote)
LINK

Lowest uninsured rate on record:


No death spiral, 72% can get plan for <$75/month:


More evidence against a death spiral:


Premium increases were largely a one-time adjustment, hitting counties that underpriced the most the hardest:


CBO also says market not in a death spiral - premiums nearly match CBO's 2017 projections:


ACA has extended the life of the Medicare Hospital Insurance Trust Fund:


ACA has reduced the budget deficit over the long term:


ACA has reduced inequality:


Healthier people miss fewer days of work and are more productive:


And those increases have been to full time jobs (not a job-killing bill, like your Reps lied to you and said):


More data that the ACA is helping jobs:


Shift in Readmission incentives has led to a reduction, and greater patient safety/outcomes:


HACs (pt safety) are also down due to incentives in the ACA:


For those with employer-provided healthcare, the premium growth (for both the employer and the employee) declined sharply, and even moreso when you include total out-of-pocket costs:


ACA also helped insurers slow per-enrollee spending growth:


Healthcare prices slowest growth in 50 years, now tracks inflation (before was > inflation):


ACA helped downward revisions of all national health expenditures:


ACA's out of pocket limits have expanded to nearly everyone:


Expanded coverage means more care - states with larger drops in uninsured rates saw a larger drop in those not seeing the Dr due to cost


All states saw a reduction in the uninsured:


Uninsured rates have fallen across ALL Income groups:


Not very hard to tell what caused the uninsured rate to drop <10% for the first time ever:



These are the facts, the data. They are not your personal anecdotes, they are the situation as it currently stands and which some of you want to destroy because you hate Obama.

Thanks, Obama!
Posted by Whiskey Richard
Member since May 2011
5924 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 8:59 am to
frick you. And frick Obama.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24570 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 8:59 am to
Stop peddling your FAKE NEWS, you stupid cumquat
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84112 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 8:59 am to
I really like your premium for an individual making $25,000 a year. What a useful stat for the people that the ACA has fricked. I see nothing about how it's affected the middle class, why might that be?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52788 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 9:00 am to
1) I'm not clicking on that link
2) Sure, Trump won, Obama's policies lost, Insurers are leaving the marketplace, premiums are skyrocketing all because.... it's a good plan.
3) Obamacare is being aborted whether you like or not. The real question, is what is replacing it, more of the same, or the free market, conservative approach?
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 9:01 am
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25315 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 9:00 am to
It's still, after 7 years, a shitty expensive wealth redistribution scheme labeled as a Healthcare program that awards losers for being losers. Get a fricking Job should be the name of the Next Healthcare plan.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39478 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 9:01 am to
Then why aren't dems fighting to keep it?

Why are premiums spiking and key promises broken?


Posted by gatorsimz
cafe risque
Member since Feb 2009
8135 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 9:01 am to
So the best you have is the uninsured rate dropping? No shite it drops when you are penalized if you are uninsured.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71697 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 9:01 am to
And it will all go away, no matter how many cherry-picked charts you post.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140445 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 9:02 am to
quote:

The cost of health insurance under the Affordable Care Act is expected to rise an average of 22 percent in 2017, according to information released by the Obama administration Monday afternoon. Still, federal subsidies will also rise, meaning that few people are likely to have to pay the full cost after the rate increases to get insurance coverage.


Success.
Posted by Malik Agar
Member since Nov 2012
12076 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 9:02 am to
I can't wait for you to lose your shilling job when Kenyacare gets repealed.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21895 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 9:03 am to
quote:

Then why aren't dems fighting to keep it?


The 1,000 to 1 calls against the AHCA vs for show that they are.

quote:

Why are premiums spiking


They're not
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29463 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 9:03 am to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 9:03 am to
So you're saying people will take something that's given to them free of charge or partially paid for by someone else??

I mean, who knew?

Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21895 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 9:03 am to
quote:

And it will all go away


If the AHCA fails today (looks possible), Trump's going to let the ACA stand.

It will not go away.

Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38277 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 9:04 am to
Mine is Steve Scalise. I hoped he whipped those votes together!
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71697 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Trump's going to let the ACA stand.




For all the faults he has, this will not happen.

The ACA will not last. Sorry bout it.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68234 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 9:05 am to
So how many of those "insured" are able to pay $12,000 in deductibles each year they need significant care?

You're a clown, no one respects your opinion on this and your shilling for this disaster is laughable.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48947 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 9:05 am to
quote:

I really like your premium for an individual making $25,000 a year. What a useful stat for the people that the ACA has fricked. I see nothing about how it's affected the middle class, why might that be?


ding ding ding

because OP wont provide the truth....the vast majority of americans are getting fricked while we pay astronomically high premiums with bullshite deductibles and coverage
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39478 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 9:06 am to
How convenient is it that some think tank would publish a pro Obamacare "study" just days before AHCA goes to house vote?

I guess all of America is wrong and Obamacare is really super awesome.
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