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re: The Abortion Debate Will Never Be Solved
Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:40 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:40 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:
One side believes that it's all about the life of the unborn child.
One side believes that it's all about the rights of the mother. This side believes that the unborn fetus is an extension of the mother, not separate from it... an idea that is supported by science (up to a certain point in pregnancy, at least).
There's actually a third side...
One that recognizes that this is a federal system and that the people of New York and California may have different ideas about a social issue that the people of Mississippi and Alabama do and that it is no better to impose the opinions and beliefs of Mississippi and Alabama on New York and California (and vice versa).
Guess what overturning Roe would do?
Lets CA and NY have their abortion policy and lets MS and AL have theirs...which is how it should be.
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Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:44 pm to saturday
quote:do you think there are no cells on Mars?
yes, yes we would, what are you talking about?
like, the planet? the planet Mars? you think there are no cells there?
Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:44 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:
This side believes that the unborn fetus is an extension of the mother, not separate from it... an idea that is supported by science (up to a certain point in pregnancy, at least).
So a human being can have two brains? Two hearts?
Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:47 pm to LSUFanHouston
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I've always believed that the rights of Person A end when they infringe upon the rights of Person B. But, legally, Person B (in this case, the unborn baby) really doesn't have any rights. Because they are unborn
If you're going to frame the debate the way you did in your OP, then why insert a textbook question-begging proposition?
Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:47 pm to udtiger
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Lets CA and NY have their abortion policy and lets MS and AL have theirs...which is how it should be.
Should CA and NY be free to have laws that violate the civil rights of other humans as well and deny them the right to life and liberty?
Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:48 pm to RebelExpress38
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If you break a sea turtle or eagle egg you go to jail.
If you kill an unborn human you get a seat in the ring of honor on the left as an empowered woman or "women's healthcare provider"
Unless you kill an unborn human without the mother's permission. Then it's feticide.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:50 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:
One side believes that it's all about the rights of the mother. This side believes that the unborn fetus is an extension of the mother, not separate from it... an idea that is supported by science (up to a certain point in pregnancy, at least).
100% incorrect.
The Fetus/Baby is/has always been viewed by Science as a separate/unique human.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:52 pm to BamaGradinTn
Having lived through two non-life compatible pregnancies, I feel this is an area with a lot of grey and not totally black and white...and that pregnancy doesn't always produce a healthy fetus...
the way my thought process has evolved over the years,
1) birth control -- why isn't Planned Parenthood in the minority communities where they're performing all these abortions not pushing it to reduce the number of abortions performed? or is it a matter of follow the money
2) all rape victims should be offered emergency contraception
3) non-life compatible pregnancies should be legal at any point after detection.
4) I'm totally uncomfortable with abortions after 12 weeks of healthy babies.
the way my thought process has evolved over the years,
1) birth control -- why isn't Planned Parenthood in the minority communities where they're performing all these abortions not pushing it to reduce the number of abortions performed? or is it a matter of follow the money
2) all rape victims should be offered emergency contraception
3) non-life compatible pregnancies should be legal at any point after detection.
4) I'm totally uncomfortable with abortions after 12 weeks of healthy babies.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:54 pm to bayoumuscle21
quote:How can you have a reasonable debate when ignorant people keep believing and spreading this complete bullshite?
They are to the point now where they are literally taking babies out of the mother alive, and then killing them
Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:54 pm to LSU2019
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I have no idea why anti-choice people love telling the world that fully grown children are being hacked to pieces every day, but its insane.
They say it because we are not anti-choice. We are pro-life.
Being pro life means you defend humans that are defenseless....unborn babies
You sound like an a-hole using that term.
1.3 % of 300k is 3 thousand.....
There are greater than 3 thousand babies that are hacked to pieces.
If one baby is hacked to pieces, that is one too many.
This post was edited on 9/29/20 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:55 pm to vl100butch
I think all abortion is wrong, but I'll make the deal right now that gives the other side the rape/incest/life of the mother abortions and bans all the rest, at any time during pregnancy.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:56 pm to LSUFanHouston
Because the court (in a very poorly written, poorly reasoned and poorly explained decision, albeit 7-2) cut off political debate and galvanized it - seemingly forever.
It could have been solved by the political process. It should have been solved by the political process.
Activist courts are some of the worst things ever.
It could have been solved by the political process. It should have been solved by the political process.
Activist courts are some of the worst things ever.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:59 pm to LSU2019
quote:
I have no idea why anti-choice people love telling the world that fully grown children are being hacked to pieces every day, but its insane.
At would point do you think it is reasonable for all abortions to be illegal?
quote:
13 weeks
quote:
21 weeks
24 weeks?
28 weeks?
32 weeks?
35 weeks?
200 weeks?
Posted on 9/29/20 at 3:10 pm to bayoumuscle21
quote:Are you counting gestational period weeks?
Babies are surviving birth now at 20 weeks, thanks to the advances of science. We can disagree, but set a time frame. For instance, after the first trimester abortion is illegal.
You bring up babies surviving at 20 weeks (very questionable) and then suggest a first trimester cut off. First trimester is 13 weeks. So what gives with that?
Posted on 9/29/20 at 3:11 pm to vl100butch
quote:
Having lived through two non-life compatible pregnancies, I feel this is an area with a lot of grey and not totally black and white...and that pregnancy doesn't always produce a healthy fetus...
the way my thought process has evolved over the years,
1) birth control -- why isn't Planned Parenthood in the minority communities where they're performing all these abortions not pushing it to reduce the number of abortions performed? or is it a matter of follow the money
2) all rape victims should be offered emergency contraception
3) non-life compatible pregnancies should be legal at any point after detection.
4) I'm totally uncomfortable with abortions after 12 weeks of healthy babies.
Having lived through two miscarriages, and given birth to four wonderful children (who each had very distinct personalities long before they left my body), agreed except -
4) I'm totally uncomfortable with abortions at any time unless the life of the mother is at risk, or the baby's life isn't viable to come to full term. If it's the baby, all attempts should still be made for life.
I also disagree 100% with ending a life because it isn't "perfect".
Just wait, I bet some lefty loon will say that ACB should have aborted her youngest son. They made similar statements about Sarah Palin's youngest.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 3:13 pm to LSUFreek
quote:
I'm pro-life, but we logically justify killing other humans all the time (war, self-defense, convicted murderers, traitors, etc...)
Right.. because criminals have made their beds.. they MADE the choice to go out and commit a crime.
Abortion is terminating a DEFENSELESS life.. I just do not see how any reasonable person disagrees with that. It's fricking evil, plain and simple.
This post was edited on 9/29/20 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 9/29/20 at 3:14 pm to texridder
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texridder
Your filth should be aborted.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 3:14 pm to AUHighPlainsDrifter
quote:"If I burn down your house, I get in trouble. But you can tear it down whenever you want to! That just ain't right ...."
It is, after all, very debatable. Not to mention that it isn't applied equally under our current laws. If I kick a pregnant woman in the belly and she loses her baby, I can be charged with murder.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 3:17 pm to bayoumuscle21
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For instance, after the first trimester abortion is illegal.
That’s what it was in the original Roe vs Wade ruling. It has since been ruled on again to get rid of that “restriction”
Posted on 9/29/20 at 3:21 pm to TigerCruise
But would we say a couple of cells on mars is a human being? Cmon man at least try to make the analogy accurate. And you got 49 ipvotes for that? Lol ....poliboard.
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