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re: The .30-06 conspiracy theory is the theory with the most legs.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:19 pm to the808bass
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:19 pm to the808bass
quote:Joe? Joe Biden - is that you?
been shot with a high caliber rifle
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Why would they lie about it? Whats the incentive?
It would be an ultra stupid mistake on their part, an unforced error
Why have "they" lied about soooooo many things????
Remember, these types were the same ones that approved and presented a plan to President Kennedy to carry out false terrorist attacks in the US and kill innocent civilians, then blame it on Cuba as a reason to attack Cuba.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:38 pm to lake chuck fan
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Why have "they" lied about soooooo many things????
The premise that they've "Lied before so they have to be lying now" is not only irrational, its retarded.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:40 pm to Champagne
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The murder weapon was manufactured between 1898 and 1918. It was then re-calibered from the German Army caliber to 30.06 so it could shoot US Army rifle ammo.
Is it possible that the age and re-calibration of this weapon caused some measure of wear and tear that would allow this old bolt to leak some propellant gas when fired? This weapon is well over 100 years old when fired.
This hypothesis would explain why a round would not be able to create an exit wound in that situation.
Im saying one way or the other, anything is possible. What I do know is that the many deer Ive shot with a 30.06 have ALWAYS had an exit wound. From the distance Charley was shot from, that bullet still had plenty enough energy to blow thru tissue and a spinal chord.
A low estimate at 150 yards with 150 grain bullet is 2900 fps and 2100 fps. Thats alot of power. Remember, we're talking about eck tissue and a spinal chord, not two sets of ribs and heart/lung tissue.
Anyone believes the present narrative is a fool. IMHO
This post was edited on 12/13/25 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:41 pm to lake chuck fan
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From the distance Charley was shot from, that bullet still had plenty enough energy to blow thru tissue and a spinal chord.
What kind of cartridge did he use?
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:42 pm to geauxbrown
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I’ve killed hundreds of deer with a 30 06 and other rifles in my life. If there’s one thing I’ve learned for certain, it’s that not every bullet performs the same each time it enters a body.
This is the answer. There are too many variables to predict any of this. Maybe quantum computing could take a crack it it.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Why have "they" lied about soooooo many things????
The premise that they've "Lied before so they have to be lying now" is not only irrational, its retarded
Really??? So if a person, organization, or government has lied repeatedly over decades it's retarded to believe they might do so again??????
Only a retarded person could believe such logic.
Oh, wait.... ur the guy that things the drug boats are fishing boats, with no nets or fishing poles! Lol
Checks out. Gfy
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:44 pm to lake chuck fan
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Really??? So if a person, organization, or government has lied repeatedly
So, do you believe the trump administration when they tell you about stolen elections?
Or is that "different?"
Do you disbelieve every homicide story you hear just because Gubment is dishonest? Are they all a lie?
This post was edited on 12/13/25 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:44 pm to lake chuck fan
Im not having this discussion again today -
What bullet was Charlie Kirk shot with and what was the impact velocity?
If you dont know those two things you cant even begin to intelligently speculate on the legitimacy of the simple claim that he was shot with a .30-06
Why the conspiracy nuts are grabbing on to THIS is do not understand. Anybody saying its impossible that he was shot with a .30-06 with no exit wound is very incorrect.
What bullet was Charlie Kirk shot with and what was the impact velocity?
If you dont know those two things you cant even begin to intelligently speculate on the legitimacy of the simple claim that he was shot with a .30-06
Why the conspiracy nuts are grabbing on to THIS is do not understand. Anybody saying its impossible that he was shot with a .30-06 with no exit wound is very incorrect.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:46 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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What bullet was Charlie Kirk shot with and what was the impact velocity?
If you dont know those two things you cant even begin to intelligently speculate on the legitimacy of the simple claim that he was shot with a .30-06
Finally, common sense.
This post was edited on 12/13/25 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:46 pm to LEASTBAY
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There are too many variables to predict any of this.
What varibles? We know the distance and the alleged caliber. We're not talking about shooting a deer and dealing with two ribcages or a heavy shoulder bone. This is a human neck and a spinal chord.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:47 pm to lake chuck fan
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What varibles? We know the distance and the alleged caliber
Guns dont kill people. The projectile that comes out the end does, and they can vary greatly within many calibers.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:47 pm to Sassafrasology
Read about this dude who was shot and learn something
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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If you dont know those two things you cant even begin to intelligently speculate on the legitimacy of the simple claim that he was shot with a .
Geez. You are such an idiot. That is all we know! What we're being told. The caliber and the distance.
We can only ase our opinions on what we are told.
I haven't read anyone stating they know what caliber he was shot with, only varying opinions on whether or not the facts line up.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:49 pm to Sassafrasology
I'm pretty sure he was shot with a rifle chambered in 6.5×52mm Carcano.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:50 pm to lake chuck fan
You dont understand the significance of what you said, how you said it, and how it proves your ignorance on the subject.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:50 pm to lake chuck fan
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Geez. You are such an idiot. That is all we know! What we're being told. The caliber and the distance.
Then you dont have enough to even make an educated guess.
Because youre leaving out the most important element.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:01 pm to lake chuck fan
Physics
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:04 pm to Sassafrasology
Nobody knows the load that was used, the bullet type, the powder charge, the age? Was it old surplus fmj? It was shot at a downward angle, bullets do weird things when they hit bone. It's perfectly possible it hit the spine and then deflected downward into his torso. I don't know what shooting a roast is supposed to show considering nobody knows or is using the same load, the same distance, and angle
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:18 pm to Sassafrasology
There’s obviously still alot to be sorted out here but one thing that I often wonder about when I see stories about authorities doing ballistics test to determine what weapons were used in shootings, how do they differentiate between all the possible cartridges in the world?
In this case they say .30-06, but when you look at cartridge data, there are probably at least 40 to 50 cartridges that use .308 diameter bullets that have been commercially available and probably that many other “wildcat” calibers that shooters have developed.
A large number of those cartridges are capable of producing 1500 to 4000 fps, all rifles and pistols have rifling grooves in the barrel to create bullet spin.
But how is a random .30 cal (.308” diameter) bullet, with rifling marks, determined to be shot from a .30-06? Why not a .308 Win, 30-30 Win, 30-40 Krag, 300 Blackout, .30 carbine, 300 Norma, 300 Win mag, 300 RUM, 7.62 x 51 nato…or any of the other multitude of .30 cal cartridges.
In this case they say .30-06, but when you look at cartridge data, there are probably at least 40 to 50 cartridges that use .308 diameter bullets that have been commercially available and probably that many other “wildcat” calibers that shooters have developed.
A large number of those cartridges are capable of producing 1500 to 4000 fps, all rifles and pistols have rifling grooves in the barrel to create bullet spin.
But how is a random .30 cal (.308” diameter) bullet, with rifling marks, determined to be shot from a .30-06? Why not a .308 Win, 30-30 Win, 30-40 Krag, 300 Blackout, .30 carbine, 300 Norma, 300 Win mag, 300 RUM, 7.62 x 51 nato…or any of the other multitude of .30 cal cartridges.
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