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re: The .30-06 conspiracy theory is the theory with the most legs.

Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62645 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:44 pm to
This is all so dumb and detracts from Charlie Kirk.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
25345 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:48 pm to
These people are idiots.

They run tests in labs.

I’ve killed hundreds of deer with a 30 06 and other rifles in my life. If there’s one thing I’ve learned for certain, it’s that not every bullet performs the same each time it enters a body.

I’ve seen loads disintegrate, pass through, not pass through, hit the spine and ricochet down it lodging in the ham.

This is in total horse shite under real life circumstances.
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
21318 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:55 pm to
This is kind of a separate issue...but I still want to know if the firefighter and other members of the crowd who were struck by gunfire in Butler were only struck by 5.56 rounds.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125442 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:12 pm to
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A human neck isn't stopping a .30-06. End of discussion.


So a person has never been shot with a high caliber rifle with no exit wound. Amazing.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37104 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:19 pm to
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been shot with a high caliber rifle
Joe? Joe Biden - is that you?
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21340 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:31 pm to
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Why would they lie about it? Whats the incentive?

It would be an ultra stupid mistake on their part, an unforced error


Why have "they" lied about soooooo many things????
Remember, these types were the same ones that approved and presented a plan to President Kennedy to carry out false terrorist attacks in the US and kill innocent civilians, then blame it on Cuba as a reason to attack Cuba.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296457 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:38 pm to
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Why have "they" lied about soooooo many things????



The premise that they've "Lied before so they have to be lying now" is not only irrational, its retarded.

Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21340 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:40 pm to
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The murder weapon was manufactured between 1898 and 1918. It was then re-calibered from the German Army caliber to 30.06 so it could shoot US Army rifle ammo.

Is it possible that the age and re-calibration of this weapon caused some measure of wear and tear that would allow this old bolt to leak some propellant gas when fired? This weapon is well over 100 years old when fired.

This hypothesis would explain why a round would not be able to create an exit wound in that situation.


Im saying one way or the other, anything is possible. What I do know is that the many deer Ive shot with a 30.06 have ALWAYS had an exit wound. From the distance Charley was shot from, that bullet still had plenty enough energy to blow thru tissue and a spinal chord.

A low estimate at 150 yards with 150 grain bullet is 2900 fps and 2100 fps. Thats alot of power. Remember, we're talking about eck tissue and a spinal chord, not two sets of ribs and heart/lung tissue.
Anyone believes the present narrative is a fool. IMHO
This post was edited on 12/13/25 at 4:41 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296457 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:41 pm to
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From the distance Charley was shot from, that bullet still had plenty enough energy to blow thru tissue and a spinal chord.


What kind of cartridge did he use?
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
16331 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:42 pm to
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I’ve killed hundreds of deer with a 30 06 and other rifles in my life. If there’s one thing I’ve learned for certain, it’s that not every bullet performs the same each time it enters a body.


This is the answer. There are too many variables to predict any of this. Maybe quantum computing could take a crack it it.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21340 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:43 pm to
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quote:


Why have "they" lied about soooooo many things????



The premise that they've "Lied before so they have to be lying now" is not only irrational, its retarded


Really??? So if a person, organization, or government has lied repeatedly over decades it's retarded to believe they might do so again??????

Only a retarded person could believe such logic.
Oh, wait.... ur the guy that things the drug boats are fishing boats, with no nets or fishing poles! Lol
Checks out. Gfy
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296457 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:44 pm to
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Really??? So if a person, organization, or government has lied repeatedly


So, do you believe the trump administration when they tell you about stolen elections?

Or is that "different?"

Do you disbelieve every homicide story you hear just because Gubment is dishonest? Are they all a lie?
This post was edited on 12/13/25 at 4:46 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71034 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:44 pm to
Im not having this discussion again today -

What bullet was Charlie Kirk shot with and what was the impact velocity?

If you dont know those two things you cant even begin to intelligently speculate on the legitimacy of the simple claim that he was shot with a .30-06

Why the conspiracy nuts are grabbing on to THIS is do not understand. Anybody saying its impossible that he was shot with a .30-06 with no exit wound is very incorrect.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296457 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:46 pm to
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What bullet was Charlie Kirk shot with and what was the impact velocity?

If you dont know those two things you cant even begin to intelligently speculate on the legitimacy of the simple claim that he was shot with a .30-06




Finally, common sense.
This post was edited on 12/13/25 at 4:48 pm
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21340 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:46 pm to
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There are too many variables to predict any of this.



What varibles? We know the distance and the alleged caliber. We're not talking about shooting a deer and dealing with two ribcages or a heavy shoulder bone. This is a human neck and a spinal chord.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296457 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:47 pm to
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What varibles? We know the distance and the alleged caliber


Guns dont kill people. The projectile that comes out the end does, and they can vary greatly within many calibers.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179548 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:47 pm to
Read about this dude who was shot and learn something



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This post was edited on 12/13/25 at 4:49 pm
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21340 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:49 pm to
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If you dont know those two things you cant even begin to intelligently speculate on the legitimacy of the simple claim that he was shot with a .



Geez. You are such an idiot. That is all we know! What we're being told. The caliber and the distance.
We can only ase our opinions on what we are told.
I haven't read anyone stating they know what caliber he was shot with, only varying opinions on whether or not the facts line up.
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
https://i.imgur.com/2j5cbGm.jpg
Member since Jun 2011
2262 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:49 pm to
I'm pretty sure he was shot with a rifle chambered in 6.5×52mm Carcano.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71034 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:50 pm to
You dont understand the significance of what you said, how you said it, and how it proves your ignorance on the subject.

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