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re: Tennessee Execution

Posted on 10/4/26 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
20440 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 2:01 pm to
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Son of Sam type laws wouldn't apply here. It's not a profit from her crime. It would be reparations for the alleged constitutional rights violations.


Would the Clean Hands Doctrine be in play here, too?
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21971 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 2:07 pm to
Execute her in the same manner she murdered Slemmer.

From some AI program:

quote:

On January 12, 1995, Christa Pike and her boyfriend Tadaryl Shipp lured their 19-year-old Job Corps classmate Colleen Slemmer into the woods near the University of Tennessee campus in Knoxville, Tennessee. Pike and Shipp brutally attacked Slemmer for approximately 30 minutes, during which Shipp carved a pentagram into her chest while Pike used a box cutter to slash her stomach and throat, ignoring the victim's pleas for mercy.

The attack concluded with Pike repeatedly bludgeoning Slemmer’s skull with a large chunk of asphalt, causing fatal brain injury. Following the murder, Pike dug into the wound, removed a fragment of the skull, and kept it as a "souvenir," later showing it to other students.
This post was edited on 10/4/26 at 4:56 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
111334 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 2:25 pm to
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More in the vein of real life, it’s also reminiscent of when Derek Todd Lee received life-saving open-heart surgery while on death row at Angola. A lot of people, myself included, asked WTF? at the time.


At least he still died, and I hope the afterlife is giving him what he deserves.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
15560 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 3:15 pm to
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She's very likely brain dead and Tennessee is about to get sued for millions.


Sued on what grounds? Wasn't brain dead the whole point of the exercise....
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
15560 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 3:17 pm to
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I think a post action investigation will reveal that she deliberately dehydrated herself, causing her veins to blowout during the execution.



If this is true, and i've never heard of that in my whole medical career, then start an IV and hydrate her with a bag of fluid or two and then execute her stupid arse. Just because she decides not to drink for a while. Doesn't mean you can't very quickly rehydrate her.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
15560 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 3:18 pm to
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Why is it so bad that she suffered? What about her victims. She didn’t seem to care


Did she suffer? From what I have heard.. She went to sleep, started snoring, never died and is still asleep. So where's the suffering? I don't see it.
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
17089 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 3:31 pm to
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80920 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 3:49 pm to
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Sued on what grounds? Wasn't brain dead the whole point of the exercise....


Death obviously, not permanently physically and mentally incapacitated but alive.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36891 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 4:35 pm to
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already a legal nightmare. She already suffered cruel and unusual punishment. They violated her constitutional rights. It's a clusterfrick and gonna cost the taxpayers millions.


Ironically, as states have tried to find more and more “human” ways to kill someone (in order to appease those people who don’t have the stomach for capital punishment) the more likely they now are to actually cause someone needless suffering.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
15560 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 5:29 pm to
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Death obviously, not permanently physically and mentally incapacitated but alive.


Uuummmm...

Take her off the respirator....no longer alive....no longer a problem.
Better yet, call an anesthesiologist into the ICU room and finish off with the prison should have done.
QUICK AND EASY.
I BET THERE'S AN IV RUNNING NOW.
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
2544 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 5:33 pm to
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She already suffered cruel and unusual punishment.


Did she have a pentagram carved in her forehead or something like that?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80920 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 5:34 pm to
Entirely against policy.

These executions are planned down to the second to avoid any holes for litigation.

This was a massive failure and is going to result in asignificant monetary award to the estate. Especially going back at it a second time in the other arm, allegedly.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80920 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 5:35 pm to
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Did she have a pentagram carved in her forehead or something like that?


I'm not agreeing with it, but it's what's going to happen based on the facts publicly available.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
20403 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 6:09 pm to
So she’s a Democrat?
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8846 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 6:15 pm to
Some frickery took place and I'd start with the pharmacy and the supplier.
I will almost bet some person with colored/dyed hair, nose and lip rings will be involved.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
172648 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 6:24 pm to
The only male present as an all woman team was requested when a last meal wasn't...Just fudged up an execution 4 to 5 mos ago. They couldn't find a vein.

Reporters are saying they closed the curtains a lot and they aren't suppose to. Some are saying the medication was degraded. It is ludicrous incompetence or they are complicit.

Is she still on life support?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
172648 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 6:27 pm to
Posted by done dancing
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2016
272 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 6:28 pm to
She had a constitutional right to what kind of death. Have you seen people die of cancer, cirrhosis, sudden impact trauma, decapitation, firearms, stabbings, etc. I have and they're gruesome. Those people had not "rights", They were victims of crimes or life's ultimate endings. It's ridiculous that we're discussing this though your are right about one thing, government will.pay taxpayers dollars for this B.S.
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
2424 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 6:42 pm to
No harm no foul.

Hopefully the convicted is braindead or permanently crippled.

Good enough.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
172648 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 6:47 pm to
I just read the updated article I posted and you nailed it. She warned, lawyers warned she has bad veins, has a blood condition...but like you said they found a central line in the hospital, as she is on life support.
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