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re: Teen Vogue: “Yes, abortion can be funny.”
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:18 am to berrycajun
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:18 am to berrycajun
"Yes, abortion can be funny!"
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Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:18 am to Ace Midnight
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I used to feel this way. Now, I've decided that a woman tha can overcome the basic, natural protective urges that most mammals feel for their children, maybe we don't need their genetic material for the next generation.
A angle I had not considered. Well done.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:21 am to Ace Midnight
quote:This is just another way of saying that the child should be punished because of the mother.
I used to feel this way. Now, I've decided that a woman tha can overcome the basic, natural protective urges that most mammals feel for their children, maybe we don't need their genetic material for the next generation.
quote:No. I think that you just aren't assigning any value to the human life that is in the mother's womb.
Does that make me a monster?
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:24 am to oklahogjr
quote:You're judging humanity by how it looks?
nothing made me side harder on the pro abortion side than when we saw what you're calling a human....looks more like a blood clot.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:27 am to FT
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If you believe that property includes your body, you can do whatever you like with it.
If you don’t, there’s just something wrong with you.
It's funny y'all think this when it comes to killing your child but hold the opposite viewpoint when it comes to kids drinking cokes or people smoking cigs. Nothing you clowns stand for is consistent.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:29 am to FT
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Abortion can’t be illegal.
Well, not yet anyways.
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Louis CK’s point was salient.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:47 am to TigerChief10
quote:Well, there is this group of people who support abortion rights, who think soft drink bans are stupid and who support your right to poison yourself by smoking.
It's funny y'all think this when it comes to killing your child but hold the opposite viewpoint when it comes to kids drinking cokes or people smoking cigs. Nothing you clowns stand for is consistent.
Welcome to libertarianism ... the onlly internally-consistent ideology in the country.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:50 am to AggieHank86
I'm not referring to libertarians and you know that. I hope you're not calling yourself one though because I seem to remember you taking the UK governments side in not allowing the baby to go somewhere else for treatment.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:50 am to FT
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If you believe that property includes your body, you can do whatever you like with it. If you don’t, there’s just something wrong with you.
Then I will invite you to my home.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:56 am to TigerChief10
quote:Not exactly. I explained THEIR law and why the action was appropriate under THEIR law. I also explained the use of an ad litem system to protect the rights of minors when there exists a question as to whether the minor’s parent is doing so.
I seem to remember you taking the UK governments side in not allowing the baby to go somewhere else for treatment.
Libertarian ideology does NOT grant parents an absolute right to make decisions which are patently NOT in the best interest of their choldren.
If you really want to discuss this, start a thread. I will play.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:57 am to AggieHank86
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the onlly internally-consistent ideology in the country.
Shall we go over the vesting of rights again?
As I recall, you posit that personhood is not your chosen basis, but instead you choose sentience. You've pointed out that brain dead people can be removed from life support, but this argument is specious. Removal of life support has nothing to do with whether or not that person has a right to life, but rather it is a question of informed consent/refusal LINK
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:59 am to AggieHank86
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the onlly internally-consistent ideology in the country.
serious?
Posted on 7/19/18 at 10:00 am to CptRusty
quote:No desire to derail/clutter this thread. You seem lonely. Start one, and I will play with you.
Shall we go over the vesting of rights again?
Posted on 7/19/18 at 10:01 am to AggieHank86
The issue wasn't whether or not it complied with their laws. The issue was you taking up for big gov. It's obvious you're just a contrarian anyways though so no need to have the same argument we had a couple months ago. We will never agree on it.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 10:02 am to AggieHank86
yea I'd hate to derail all of the heady debate about the comedic value of abortion.
Threads take on a life of their own, predictably this one has become yet another abortion thread.
Threads take on a life of their own, predictably this one has become yet another abortion thread.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 11:00 am to AggieHank86
quote:I know there are different flavors of liberterianism but aren't two underlying principles of that philosophy personal autonomy and the non-aggression principle? If so, how do those coincide with the unborn who should have a right to personal autonomy (in terms of living) and not having its life threatened by another person (the mother)?
Well, there is this group of people who support abortion rights, who think soft drink bans are stupid and who support your right to poison yourself by smoking.
Welcome to libertarianism ... the onlly internally-consistent ideology in the country.
It seems to me that the only way you can support abortion is to deny that the unborn is a living human being that has certain rights that shouldn't be violated. If so, can you determine when a child actually has these rights bestowed on it and what the basis of your determination is?
Posted on 7/19/18 at 11:02 am to berrycajun
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Whether you support abortion or not, there is NOTHING funny about killing a human baby. NOTHING.
As an anti-abortion person, I completely disagree.
This is like saying rape jokes can never be funny. It's false and a completely ridiculous argument.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 11:18 am to berrycajun
I'm about to make like a fetus and abort out of this thread
Posted on 7/19/18 at 11:35 am to deltaland
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I'm about to make like a fetus and abort out of this thread
This is what I'm talking about. Abortion jokes can be funny. This is an example of a bad one.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 11:56 am to LuckyTiger
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I think I would enjoy being a father and I think I would be a good father.
The reality is, though...and this saddens me to acknowledge it...I just don’t want my children to grow up in this world that we live in today.
Perhaps you should look at it like this: The world that we live in today is in desperate need of children who are raised right.
This post was edited on 7/19/18 at 11:58 am
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