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re: Teen Vogue: “Yes, abortion can be funny.”

Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:20 pm to
OH JESUS NOT A TITTY.

Think of the children!

I've got the vapors just reading about it. I too long for the days when our grandparents covered their boosoms and shite in holes in the ground - at least they knew how to do it with dignity.

For real, if a breastfeeding woman offends you, it says a whole hell of a lot more about you than her.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:22 pm to
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The issue wasn't whether or not it complied with their laws. The issue was you taking up for big gov. It's obvious you're just a contrarian anyways though so no need to have the same argument we had a couple months ago. We will never agree on it.
You are mistaken.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35126 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:23 pm to
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If he was aborted now that would be called Murder


As a communist, he isn’t a person. You can’t murder something that isn’t human.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:26 pm to
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It seems to me that the only way you can support abortion is to deny that the unborn is a living human being that has certain rights that shouldn't be violated. If so, can you determine when a child actually has these rights bestowed on it and what the basis of your determination is?
The question is application of the NAP. Clearly it applies to the woman. The debate is whether it sppies to the blastocyst/embryo/fetus. We had a 20-page thread on this issue a few days ago. I do not think it applies. A minority of libertarians disagree.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41797 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:53 pm to
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The question is application of the NAP. Clearly it applies to the woman. The debate is whether it sppies to the blastocyst/embryo/fetus. We had a 20-page thread on this issue a few days ago. I do not think it applies. A minority of libertarians disagree.
I apologize for not being caught up but what was your conclusion about when rights are bestowed upon children? Someone said that you were talking about sentience. Is that accurate?
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:55 pm to
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It can be funny when it's a punch-line


It would have been funnier if your mom would have aborted you.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35650 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:59 pm to
Teen Vogue also had an article about the joys of anal sex.

Now mind you...magazine demos are always about 5 years younger than the supposed audience...because young people want to be older and that's what they think older girls are reading.

So really 10 year olds are Teen Vogue's demographic - not 16 year olds who are reading regular Vogue and Cosmo.

Terrible magazine culture that nobody monitors.
This post was edited on 7/19/18 at 1:02 pm
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18107 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:46 pm to
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If you believe that property includes your body, you can do whatever you like with it.


I wonder how this would work with conjoined twins?
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18107 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:49 pm to
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Difference between Trump and I?


Trump and me
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92877 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:51 pm to
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Why are they worried about abortions?? No one wants to frick those ugly broads...


They don’t have black dudes where you live?
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18107 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:00 pm to
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What ever happened to " abortion should be legal but rare"?


This line of thinking always struck me as odd. If you believe abortion is a such a good thing, why in the hell would you want it to be rare? What would making a good thing rare accomplish? Seems like the only reason somebody would want abortion to be rare is because they innately know the practice is shameful, evil, or immoral.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:07 pm to
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I apologize for not being caught up but what was your conclusion about when rights are bestowed upon children? Someone said that you were talking about sentience. Is that accurate?
The ideologically-comsistent answer is personhood/sentience/self-awarness (all essentially the same as far as I am concerneed ... not going to get tangled in semantics), but I am not an ideologue. I think 1st trimester is a reasonable compromise. It gives the woman an adequate time to exercise her rights, but estops her well-before any reasonable person could assert that “sentience” has arrived.
This post was edited on 7/19/18 at 10:30 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:21 pm to
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What ever happened to " abortion should be legal but rare"?
This line of thinking always struck me as odd. If you believe abortion is a such a good thing, why in the hell would you want it to be rare?
Don’t be unnecessarily obtuse. VERY few people think abortion is a “good thing” in the sense that you use the term. They/we think that it is an option that should be available to people in a difficult situation.

I lack the hubris to pretend that I KNOW the answer to “when rights SHOULD vest.” I have studied the issue, and I certainly have opinions that I think are reasonable, but I acknowledge the value of other views as well ... such as those Rusty expressed. I would hope that most reasonable people (on both sides) lack that hubis.

As such, I would prefer that it be only rare occasions that anyone is forced to implement their views.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:23 pm to
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Whether you support abortion or not, there is NOTHING funny about killing a human baby. NOTHING.


Well you're just wrong.

Time+Tragedy=Comedy

This just isn't funny.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72812 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:58 pm to
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abortion

quote:

killing a human baby


Nope.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48745 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:59 pm to
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I lack the hubris


Fake news
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41797 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:08 am to
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The ideologically-comsistent answer is personhood/sentience/self-awarness (all essentially the same as far as I am concerneed ... not going to get tangled in semantics), but I am not an ideologue.
Mind if I ask why you've settled on sentience and self-awareness to determine personhood? I only ask because, depending on the study, infants don't start developing consciousness and storing memories until about 5 months after being born. Being self-aware may not start until almost a year old.

With that being the case, do you consider newborns up to 5 or 12 months old "persons", and if so, what is the distinction you are making between them and the unborn in terms of what you've stated qualifies someone/something as a person?
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