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re: Teacher Suspended For Refusing To Affirm Children’s ‘Trans’ Pronouns Is Fighting Back
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:04 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:04 pm to SammyTiger
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Because a person with character wouldn’t even want to work for a company that has policies antithesis to his values. That’s character.
1. The word you were trying to use is 'antithetical.'
2. I don't give a shite about how the company treats other employees. They can stand up for their own damn selves like I did. That's character.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:04 pm to El Segundo Guy
Tex Riddler must be in this thread. Who in the hell else what downvote your comment other than that communist shill?
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:05 pm to SammyTiger
Unless you wear a dress how would someone “misgender” you?
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:05 pm to Zach
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I don't give a shite about how the company treats other employees. They can stand up for their own damn selves like I did. That's character.
It is character. Hypothetically, Working for Nazis as long as they aren’t shipping you off to the camps does say something about a person’s character.
But not good things.
It says you don’t care about your beliefs, just not being bothered.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:08 pm to SammyTiger
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Calling a kid by the wrong pronouns
I agree 100%. Boys should be called by male pronouns and girls by female pronouns.
Anything short of that is wrong.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:09 pm to FooManChoo
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There are a few different ways Christians can navigate these waters, including not using pronouns at all but the names of the students. It seems like that's not good enough.
See that's just the thing. They don't care about that. They want to force him to do what they want. It's like thousands of cake makers out there and yet you want to compel the Christian guy to conform by forcing him to do what you want.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:10 pm to TS1926
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See that's just the thing. They don't care about that. They want to force him to do what they want. It's like thousands of cake makers out there and yet you want to compel the Christian guy to conform by forcing him to do what you want.
It’s not just the thing though.
Because that’s not the situation going on.
If this teacher never used pronouns who would know he wouldn’t use the correct ones? They may think it odd, but I doibt He’s talking about this kid in the 3rd person that much.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:11 pm to SammyTiger
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It is character. Hypothetically, Working for Nazis as long as they aren’t shipping you off to the camps does say something about a person’s character.
Wow, you're really dense. Soldiers were drafted in WWII. You couldn't say 'Love to help but I got this job offer at the library.'
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:20 pm to SammyTiger
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Because that’s not the situation going on.
If this teacher never used pronouns who would know he wouldn’t use the correct ones? They may think it odd, but I doibt He’s talking about this kid in the 3rd person that much.
It's the student with administration backing compelling this teacher to go against his deeply held religious beliefs or lose his job. How is it different?
In addition, these kinds of events are not organic. I wouldn't be surprised that it was no secret the teacher was a Christian and the student received some outside influence or even coercion into bringing these accusations in order to establish a precedence.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:20 pm to Zach
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Wow, you're really dense. Soldiers were drafted in WWII. You couldn't say 'Love to help but I got this job offer at the library.'
Wow, you’re really dense. Self preservation is understandable, but it’s not high character either. Your whole argument is that you have character because you do what you want, not because you just follow orders. So I guess They have low character according to you.
Also, it was a hypothetical, so
I control The fact pattern. I said Work, not fight, and didn’t mention and kind of forced conscription.
You basically dodged the hypo to make some defense of the German army.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:23 pm to SammyTiger
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Wow, you’re really dense. Self preservation is understandable, but it’s not high character either. Also, it was a hypothetical, so I control The fact pattern. I said Work, not fight, and didn’t mention and kind of forced conscription. You basically dodged the hypo to make some defense of the German army.
Your hypo is incredibly stupid because it alters the thread discussion for decisions on taking, staying and leaving employment to one where you have no choice.
Why don't you just go full retard and use a prison hypo.
'If you are a convict and they tell you to do something and you think it's unethical should you tell the boss you're leaving?'
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:34 pm to Zach
You said:
So I took that to an extreme to challenge your assertion. It’s called an ad absurdism argument and it’s pretty common.
Again: the hypo didn’t say “you’re a conscripted German soldier” it just said “you work for Nazis.” In the hypo you’re free to leave.
Based on your argument you can still work there and be “high character”
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I don't give a shite about how the company treats other employees. They can stand up for their own damn selves like I did. That's character.
So I took that to an extreme to challenge your assertion. It’s called an ad absurdism argument and it’s pretty common.
Again: the hypo didn’t say “you’re a conscripted German soldier” it just said “you work for Nazis.” In the hypo you’re free to leave.
Based on your argument you can still work there and be “high character”
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:38 pm to TS1926
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It's the student with administration backing compelling this teacher to go against his deeply held religious beliefs or lose his job. How is it different?
They said it wouldn’t be enough for him to just avoid using pronouns.
This guy wants to use pronouns, just the ones he believes are correct.
That’s two very different situations.
It’s the difference between thinking someones an a-hole and calling them an a-hole.
Which is a pretty big difference at a grammar school.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:43 pm to SammyTiger
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So I took that to an extreme to challenge your assertion. It’s called an ad absurdism argument and it’s pretty common. Again: the hypo didn’t say “you’re a conscripted German soldier” it just said “you work for Nazis.”
No, your use of they hypo changed the elements in the decision to an absurd degree. That's why I demonstrated how stupid it could get. It didn't sink in because you're dumb.
Lemme take it a step farther. Why don't you just say 'If you are given the choice of using the employer's demand on pronouns and if you refuse the employer will summon his aliens from the planet Nylon and they will destroy all life on earth except for slug worms, would you comply or refuse?'
It's been fun. I actually enjoy dealing with morons for a while. But it's 4 and I must sign off till tomorrow.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:56 pm to SammyTiger
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just the ones he believes are correct.
You mean the correct ones.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:57 pm to L.A.
Alliance defending freedom seems like a great organization. Sounds like their leader has really fought a lot of cases . I look for ADF to start to become a popular name with all the craziness the left is trying to pull in schools.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:59 pm to roadGator
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You mean the correct ones.
I said what I said.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:00 pm to SammyTiger
You were just wrong.
And you make way too many dispositive statements.
But that’s what you people do.
And you make way too many dispositive statements.
But that’s what you people do.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:05 pm to SammyTiger
What gender is a male child at 3 years old?
When is it ok from prog freak parents to demand the rest of us stop believing in science and call their boy a girl?
Age 6? 7?8?9?10?
What do you people believe is the appropriate age?
When is it ok from prog freak parents to demand the rest of us stop believing in science and call their boy a girl?
Age 6? 7?8?9?10?
What do you people believe is the appropriate age?
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 4:05 pm
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