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Teacher Suspended For Refusing To Affirm Children’s ‘Trans’ Pronouns Is Fighting Back
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:19 am
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:19 am
Kudos to him
daily wire
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After Byron “Tanner” Cross, a P.E. teacher at Leesburg Elementary School, told the Loudoun County school board that he will not affirm children’s so-called “transgender” identity, citing his Christian faith, he was immediately placed on administrative leave.
Now, Mr. Cross is fighting back. He’s gained legal support from Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), a nonprofit legal organization working to protect religious freedom, free speech, parental rights, and the sanctity of life.
Cross, represented by ADF Senior Counsel Tyson Langhofer, sued the school district, last week.
“Public schools have no business compelling teachers to express ideological beliefs that they don’t hold, nor do they have the right to suspend someone simply for respectfully providing their opinion at a public meeting,” Langhofer said. “The school district favors a certain set of beliefs on a hotly contested issue, and it wants to force Tanner to cry uncle and endorse them as well. That’s neither legal nor constitutional, and neither was the school’s move to place Tanner on leave.”
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:20 am to L.A.
Was this a he/she thing or one of those pretend ones like xe or zai?
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:22 am to L.A.
My brother does a lot of pro bono work for ADF and is in an adjacent county.
I hope he takes them to the woodshed.
I hope he takes them to the woodshed.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:26 am to L.A.
I'm glad he's fighting. I hope he wins and wins big. These bullies need a punch in the nose, so to speak.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:27 am to L.A.
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He’s gained legal support from Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF)
There was once a day and age when the ACLU would stand up for people in these situations. Although I disagreed with some of the things the ACLU fought for, at least they were consistent when it came to protecting individual's civil liberties.
Sad that they've decided to hop fully on board the progressive-SJW ideological train. In many ways, their current agenda is the polar opposite of their original mission.
I'm sure their comment on the lawsuit would be that it's actually the child's civil liberties that are being threatened and that the teacher's religious beliefs and freedom of speech should be violated in order to condone/comply with another human beings personal life choices.
(Although let's be honest. An elementary school student didn't "choose" to be transgender; it's most likely just a phase which is being dangerously reinforced by parents and other teachers)
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 11:34 am
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:29 am to UGATiger26
That’s Swamp Country.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:33 am to UGATiger26
It’s an interesting case.
On one side you have his compelling interest to freedom of speech, freedom Of religion.
On the other side, he’s not just on a public corner. This is how he is acting in his capacity as a teacher. It involves how he treats students. Does separation of church and state come into play the other way. He’s a public employee and he’s projecting his religious beliefs in students.
It’s an interesting argument either side from a legal standpoint.
On one side you have his compelling interest to freedom of speech, freedom Of religion.
On the other side, he’s not just on a public corner. This is how he is acting in his capacity as a teacher. It involves how he treats students. Does separation of church and state come into play the other way. He’s a public employee and he’s projecting his religious beliefs in students.
It’s an interesting argument either side from a legal standpoint.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:37 am to SammyTiger
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He’s a public employee and he’s projecting his religious beliefs in students.
That’s the argument he’s making.
It would be simpler to say that he’s just recognizing biology. And the state, even as his employer, can’t make him pretend things are true that aren’t true.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:44 am to L.A.
About six months ago I heard Megyn Kelly, yeah that Megyn Kelly former Fox News, in an interview with Glenn Beck I think say she was going to join an alliance with other like-minded lawyers to fight back on these sorts of things. It is a way for a those who are pushed against the wall in the woke, social justice, take your freedom away times to push back on the freedom offenders. I wonder is it is the Alliance Defending Freedom.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:45 am to the808bass
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That’s the argument he’s making.
It would be simpler to say that he’s just recognizing biology. And the state, even as his employer, can’t make him pretend things are true that aren’t true.
Agreed.
quote:
“I love all of my students but I will never lie to them regardless of the consequences. I’m a teacher but I serve God first and I will not affirm that a biological boy can be a girl and vice versa because it’s against my religion, it’s lying to a child, it’s abuse to a child, and it’s sinning against our God,” Cross concluded.
I certainly commend him for standing up for his faith, but in a strictly legal sense, it's not a great argument to put forth. But I'm sure his lawyers are well aware of that, and plan to use a similar angle to what you suggested.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:57 am to SammyTiger
quote:I believe the argument is that it's not him who is projecting beliefs on students, but the school administration that are projecting their beliefs on him, telling him to conform.
He’s a public employee and he’s projecting his religious beliefs in students
There are a few different ways Christians can navigate these waters, including not using pronouns at all but the names of the students. It seems like that's not good enough.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:02 pm to SammyTiger
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It involves how he treats students.
Does it? I would argue that he could treat the child wonderfully without kowtowing to political bullshite that he doesn’t ascribe to.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:04 pm to L.A.
I’m glad he’s pushing back.
I’m not glad he’s using “Christian faith” as his justification.
Stick to “it’s idiotic to think a child understands this”, and stop making my faith a punch line for activists.
I’m not glad he’s using “Christian faith” as his justification.
Stick to “it’s idiotic to think a child understands this”, and stop making my faith a punch line for activists.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:05 pm to jimmy the leg
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Does it? I would argue that he could treat the child wonderfully without kowtowing to political bullshite that he doesn’t ascribe to.
To an extend. Calling a transgendered kid the wrong pronoun (although they’re all third person so how that actually comes up in front of the kid idk so that is a legitimate point) isn’t exactly kind. No matter how you want to spin it.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:06 pm to jimmy the leg
Any settlement should include the school board resigning. Don't need that idiocy involved with school systems.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:08 pm to SammyTiger
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isn’t exactly kind
Embracing and pushing mental illness on elementary kids is what, exactly in your opinion?
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:15 pm to The Maj
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Embracing and pushing mental illness on elementary kids is what, exactly in your opinion?
If you subscribe to the “transgenderism isn’t real so I am Doing them a favor treating them like shite” school of thought there isn’t much use having this conversation
Ultimately this ain’t the gym teachers call.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:17 pm to SammyTiger
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This is how he is acting in his capacity as a teacher. It involves how he treats students.
As do selecting adjectives to describe students. If you can pick your pronouns, why can't you pick your adjectives?
If a student doesn't make the cut for the football team because he's too slow is the problem with the coaches? Maybe that student doesn't think of themselves as being slow... The coaches are actively denying how he views himself.
This is about how the adults are acting in their capacity as coaches, it involved how they're treating students.
Give me a break. If we aren't raising our kids to operate within a world where people might not agree with their own opinions of themselves we're committing child abuse by not preparing them for the real world.
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He’s a public employee and he’s projecting his religious beliefs in students.
Is refusing to participate in something that violates your religious beliefs the same as "projecting" your religious beliefs?
Would a Muslim teacher refusing to draw Muhammad be projecting their religious beliefs on students?
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:17 pm to SammyTiger
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there isn’t much use having this conversation
I guess you really do not have an answer as to why someone should be embracing and pushing mental illness on elementary kids then? We once called this type of thing child abuse in this country...
It is ok that you do not want to have the conversation, most sensitive people do not....
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:22 pm to SammyTiger
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If you subscribe to the “transgenderism isn’t real so I am Doing them a favor treating them like shite” school of thought there isn’t much use having this conversation
And you feel sticking to the pronoun usage that's been in place for centuries is "treating them like shite"?
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