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re: Surprised there wasnt a fool proof plan in place to secure HormuzStrait

Posted on 3/18/26 at 4:48 pm to
Posted by Burt Reynolds
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 4:48 pm to
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Pretty sure our Navy will navigate the strait as they wish. Insurance companies are telling tankers and cargo ships they aren't covered if they do.


Yea some of the navy can. They aren’t sending aircraft carriers in there. But no one else can unless Iran gives them safe passage. Then what about our allies that can’t sell their oil bleeding money everyday the strait is closed?

If this goes on long enough; they’ll make a deal with Iran and start making oil transactions in yuan. Bye bye petrodollar
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 4:49 pm to
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What's the evidence there was "no plan"?


This.
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 4:51 pm to
My take…the islands currently under control by Iran, allowing them to threaten closure of the Strait…let’s just say that they may not have that option much longer.

The USS Tripoli (LHS-7) is in route, and I believe that it’s a game changer.

2500 Marines with specialized skills, coupled with 20 F35’s (parked on the entrance of the Straits) can do things a carrier can’t.

The biggest issue going forward is de-mining the Strait.

With true (not partial) air cover, the minesweepers on site can really put in the work.

Iran is on the clock imho.

I would suggest that once the Strait is secure, they are done for.

I don’t foresee that a large scale invasion will be necessary.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 4:53 pm to
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Yet You think it's a fore gone conclusion.


They killed all their leaders and still no regime change. They’ve been preparing for this war for decades and have tunnel cities buried in the mountains. Meanwhile all of our bases are completely exposed. Israel is exposed and getting bombarded.

This isn’t the same thing as Iraq or Syria.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 4:54 pm to
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The biggest issue going forward is de-mining the Strait.


You realize that can take weeks or months right?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 4:56 pm to
You need your Domino's pizza 30 minutes or less!
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 4:57 pm to
Trump is gonna send the Cajun navy
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 4:58 pm to
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You need your Domino's pizza 30 minutes or less!

There’s simply no way you believe we have a definable exit strategy for this little excursion.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 5:00 pm to
Why not?

It wasn't spelled out for MSNow?
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 5:00 pm to
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There’s simply no way you believe we have a definable exit strategy for this little excursion.


I think he actually does believe it.
Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 5:01 pm to
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The USS Tripoli (LHS-7) is in route, and I believe that it’s a game changer.

That’s a big, slow, target in the shallow strait. Besides, the bulk of the ground element isn’t on the Tripoli, it’s on whichever LPD is accompanying her.

Lincoln has an F35 squadron already.

I’m not saying we won’t move on Iran’s islands, just that I don’t know we’d do it do it amphibiously with the MEU. Would seem easier to take the airfields and similar with special forces out of the gulf states and use the marines to garrison
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 5:03 pm to
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Why not? It wasn't spelled out for MSNow?


Gonna take a little more than a few bombs to change the regime. Otherwise it would have happened by now
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 5:04 pm to
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It wasn't spelled out for MSNow?

Que?
Posted by deltadummy
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 5:05 pm to
They're too stupid to realize it's a total loss if we don't get our hands on their uranium. And the only way to do that is for the masses to rise up and give it to us, or we send in ground troops.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 5:08 pm to
No shite Patton?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37264 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 5:09 pm to
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No shite Patton?

So what’s your point? You’re ok with years and years of fricking around with a toxic society of 95 million?

The only thing ground operations will do is kill Americans.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 5:12 pm to
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You realize that can take weeks or months right?



have you told the Iranians this? because that's going to be real painful for them in terms of funding...... well, pretty much anything that relates to their economy.

I imagine the people who need to "rise up" and help with the uranium won't be too pleased when Iran cuts its own throat by closing the straight for months.

Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 5:13 pm to
So you have already assigned ground for years.

Posted by coolpapaboze
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 5:13 pm to
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If only the global oil market wasn’t global or something.

It is looking increasingly likely that the global market is fracturing. Spoiler alert: Europe is dependent on the Strait of Hormuz and they're openly refusing to do anything to keep it open.

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Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 5:16 pm to
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you have already assigned ground for years.

What?
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