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Supreme Court rules for coach in public school prayer case

Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:18 am
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:18 am
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The Supreme Court ruled Monday that a Washington state high school football coach had a right to pray on the field immediately after games, a decision that could lead to more acceptance of religious expression at public schools.

The ruling was a victory for Joseph Kennedy, who claimed that the Bremerton School District violated his religious freedom by telling him he couldn’t pray so publicly after the games. The district said it was trying to avoid the appearance that the school was endorsing a religious point of view.

In recent years, a more conservative Supreme Court has been inclined to view government actions it once considered to be neutral and necessary to maintain separation of church and state as hostile to religious expression.

One issue in the case was whether the coach’s decision to pray in such a prominent place, on the 50-yard line, amounted to a private moment of giving thanks or a public demonstration of his religious faith that his players may have felt compelled to join.

Kennedy urged the Supreme Court to find that he was acting on his own behalf, expressing his own religious views, not speaking not as a mouthpiece for the school. But the school district said the students on the football team looked up to their coach and felt coerced into doing as he did.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-rules-coach-public-school-prayer-case-rcna31662
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:19 am to


Trump doin' work!
Posted by BestBanker
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:19 am to

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Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:20 am to
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The vote was 6 to 3, with the court’s three liberal members in dissent.

Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:20 am to

Posted by Tantal
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:20 am to
EPA FUUUUUUUCKED!!! I like what this court is doing lately.
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:20 am to
Should have never made it that far.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:21 am to
If the sports media is against something you know you’re on the right side of the issue. Those guys have been one collective bitch over social issues.
Posted by Figgy
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:22 am to
how much more melt do the libs have in reserve? They’re gonna need it for sure.
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:22 am to
Waiting for the garland press release saying he will still send the gestapo to stop post game prayer.
Posted by PorkSammich
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:22 am to
If he was Muslim this would have never been an issue.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:22 am to

How does a guy praying in public affect the lives of anyone?
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:23 am to
A

THREAT

TO

OUR

DEMOCRACYYYYYYYYYY
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:24 am to
Specifically dan wolken. Anything he hates must be a good thing.
Posted by FredBear
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:24 am to
Been a bad week or so for the left wing. Which means some positive things are happening for America
Posted by fjlee90
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:24 am to
I am amazed at this becoming contentious.

When I played high school ball in the early 2000's our coach was very clear. We will be on the 50 at the end of every game. We will invite the other team, no matter what happened during the game. I will pray and I invite you to join in. If you do not want to join in, no worries; reflect in your own manner.

Summed up: I will pray, you're welcome to join, you won't stop me, and I won't force you. But you will be a man and we will respect each other.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:25 am to
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How does a guy praying in public affect the lives of anyone?




They don't like it. They don't want to see it. More importantly, they don't like it that his players look up to him.
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 9:26 am
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:26 am to
We said The Lord's Prayer before and after every game and no one ever said a thing.
Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:28 am to
Constitutionally, this is absolutely the right ruling. The establishment clause has been interpreted far too broadly for far too long.

From a policy perspective, however, it is just a bad idea for the coach to do this. Between peer pressure and fear of “coach retaliation,“ this basically forces all but the strongest-willed players to join in, regardless of whether they really wish to do so.

And don’t try to tell me that coaches do not retaliate. Back when I played, it was amazing how much more likely it was that your films would be sent to nearby colleges, if you were a loyal member of the FCA.
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 9:32 am
Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:29 am to
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From a policy perspective, however, it is just a bad idea for the coach to do this. Between peer pressure and fear of “coach retaliation,“ this basically forces all but the strongest-willed players to join in, regardless of whether they really wish to do so.



the school shouldn't have fired him for the causes they wrote in the letter(s)

From my understanding of this, the school board really effed up.
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 9:30 am
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