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re: Supreme Court - "Sex discrimination" includes gay and transgender discrimination

Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:38 am to
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:38 am to
Oh look Gorsuch is also a turncoat. Looks like another failure of Trumps. I’m starting to think we have been fooled. Progressivism is gaining ground faster today than under Obama and Trump sits there and does nothing but tweet. frick him and frick the Supreme Court
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:38 am to
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Discrimination based on having swastika tattooed on your forehead isn't explicitly in fine print either, so that should be a protected class. It's a natural extension.


Ummmm, no, that is a point of view. I’m allowed to discriminate against someone’s point of view. Plus what’s the guy with swastika tattoo going to do with hiring practices when it comes to race, religion, sexuality, and disabilities? That could be the most fricking retarded example you could have given. You’re an idiot.
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 11:45 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62623 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:38 am to
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Inside of 20 years, every women's American record will be held by a biological male.

And every company will be a "Woman and Minority Owned" qualified business.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:40 am to
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It goes beyond athletics.

Can biological males now get scholarships, even non-athletic ones, set up for women?

Basically, can biological males basically skim off the top of EVERYTHING designed for women?

Saying "sex discrimination" includes transgender ends being female as an actual distinction. And yes, I know it goes both ways but let's face it, the damage is going to be 99% in one direction.


I actually agree with you, ShortyRob. You have put forth a good argument on why gender identity should not be a protected class. Sexuality: yes. Gender identity: no.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100763 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:40 am to
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Roberts


Not a surprise.

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Gorsuch


A surprise


At least Kavabaw knows what’s right. And can always count on Thomas and Alito. We really need to get Breyer and RBG replaced with conservatives though
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:40 am to
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Ummmm, no, that is a point of view. I’m allowed to discriminate against someoneMs point of view
IT was a bad example

But, you CAN still discriminate against ugly, pretty, fat, skinny, tall, short, etc etc etc.

There should be no such thing as protected groups and, yes, I'm saying it. Anti-discrimination law should all be repealed.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
20449 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:41 am to
Enjoy the shite show of Christian universities, schools, and other institutions getting sued left and right because they refuse to higher an individual because they are transgender.

It is coming.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62623 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:42 am to
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By definition, the government declaring certain classes of people as "protected" is government sanctioned discrimination.

Yep. Nothing prevents one from being fired for being a white male heterosexual.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26950 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:42 am to
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The other 6 believed the word also included one or both of the latter two.’


You're giving them way too much credit. They wanted an outcome; it's not any more complex than that. Whatever twists and "beliefs" they needed for that outcome were figured out and worked into their justification, but this outcome was their starting point. They worked backwards from there.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:43 am to
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I can make that argument on sexuality. If you’re pedosexual, you can stop diddling kids that can prevent you from doing your job. It can lose you a significant amount of business if say you have a pediatric clinic and a pedosexual wants to be a doctor. You can absolutely fire someone for being a pedo and they can do nothing about it.


I think places dealing extensively with children should have some exceptions with this much like how religious institutions and businesses (like say a Kosher slaughterhouse) do, but only when it comes to pedophiles and not other sexualities.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24080 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:44 am to
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I think places dealing extensively with children should have some exceptions with this much like how religious institutions and businesses (like say a Kosher slaughterhouse) do, but only when it comes to pedophiles and not other sexualities.


The SCOTUS says no.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24148 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:44 am to
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Once you introduce the concept of protected classes, you have to present an argument on why something isn’t a protected class.


Why?

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:44 am to
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But, you CAN still discriminate against ugly, pretty, fat, skinny, tall, short, etc etc etc.

There should be no such thing as protected groups and, yes, I'm saying it. Anti-discrimination law should all be repealed.


Agreed, but so long as it exists, I don’t see the real argument (save for pedophilia when it comes to child focused industries) that sexuality wouldn’t be a protected class.
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:45 am to
I honestly think this will hurt Trump in November. This will hurt his bases's enthusiasm and cause some to stay home.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:46 am to
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I honestly think this will hurt Trump in November. This will hurt his bases's enthusiasm and cause some to stay home.


Ummm, no it’s not. How many people refuse to hire or serve gay people in this day and age?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26950 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:47 am to
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Ummmm, no, that is a point of view.


So? I think point of view is a natural extension of protecting religion, and you're all about SCOTUS adding in natural extensions to the law. No need for "point of view" to actually be in the text, amirite?

You don't understand basic civics and I'm an idiot?
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
9637 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:50 am to
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May as well let antifa and BLM just burn it to the ground.


I've got a better idea.

Let's burn THEM to the ground, and then rebuild things as it should be.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:51 am to
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So?


You explicitly hire people for their point of view. That by definition can’t be a protected class. You’re an idiot.
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 11:53 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26950 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:52 am to
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IT was a bad example


Not using his logic. We should just protect everything that SCOTUS thinks is a "natural extension" of what the law actually says, because what it actually says isn't that important, it's just a starting place. It makes more sense to make political views a protected class than it does trannies.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24148 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:54 am to
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that sexuality wouldn’t be a protected class.


I’m not sure what you are arguing. That the court can just add new protected classes as they desire regardless of the law? Or the law should be modified.

Sex has a clear definition and who you desire to frick is a different concept.

It’s almost hysterical that the gays would argue simultaneously that your sex doesn’t determine who you want to frick but that sex protections should be extended to who you want to frick.

And it’s embarrassing that the court came to that same patently retarded decision.
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