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re: Study shows nearly half of ‘Covid deaths’ not caused by virus

Posted on 4/29/25 at 3:53 am to
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
3549 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 3:53 am to
This was obvious early into the “pandemic”
Posted by DocYatesVA
Yukon, OK
Member since Oct 2022
198 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 5:36 am to
The problem with this study is that it undermines the common forensic theme when assigning manner of death to an individual. If you shoot a person who has terminal cancer, it is still a murder. The fact that the individual has terminal cancer may have contributed to the death, due to weakness, low blood count, etc., however the manner of death is still homicide.

The same here. In reality it makes sense that those who have a weaker immune system, immunocompromised, or in general poor health would be susceptible to this virus. Look at the viral pandemic of 1917. The majority of those killed by the flu were younger. The reason being that the flu actually turned their immune systems against them contributing to their deaths.

Regardless, dead is dead. Not sure how one can look at the statistics and not see that there was an increase of mortality during the opening surge of Covid. Besides I think it has transmuted to a much more benign form of infection than its original variant.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46538 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:03 am to
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Are you telling us the CDC and its evil dwarf misled us? I am shocked. Totally shocked.

It was a well known phenomenon at the time to anyone paying close attention. Norway and Sweden were often compared because Sweden was the lone developed nation that did not lock down. Norway counted “died of covid” and Sweden counted “Died with covid”. This led to Norway’s numbers looking better than Sweden’s, but folks who were paying close attention knew otherwise.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
39542 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:08 am to
JBE noted a 17 year old that died “from Covid.”

He actually died from a drug overdose.

JBE used his death to imply that teens were high susceptible to death from Covid.

Dems lie…

go figure.
Posted by TIGERVATO
Spring, TX.
Member since Jan 2008
1712 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:09 am to
It was obvious when the media was calling vehicular deaths, covid deaths. They lied and ramped up the numbers for their narrative.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
119697 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 7:24 am to
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The problem with this study is that it undermines the common forensic theme when assigning manner of death to an individual.


No, it doesn’t.

The study highlights the fact that we assigned deaths as Covid-related deaths like we had never done in a pandemic before.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
9468 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 7:30 am to
When you incentivize killing citizens…
Posted by Drumpfisaglobalist
Member since Apr 2025
8 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 7:38 am to
You mean trump too right? The father of the vaccine and the one who rewarded that troll you speak of
Posted by FizzyPop
350 posts
Member since Jun 2024
608 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 8:29 am to
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You mean trump too right? The father of the vaccine and the one who rewarded that troll you speak of


I'm torn on this issue. Biden was responsible for mandating the one shot fits all on young and healthy working Americans which was evil, but Trump absolutely
let Pfizer and Moderna come first to market with pure trash that is mRNA. Trump lacked any type of true expert telling him that the Warp Speed options should have included a traditional egg based protein shot or recombinant DNA shot like the H1N1 10 years before. The JnJ shot was the closest thing but Novavax should have been in Warp Speed if things were really on the up n up.
Posted by TigerbaitTigerbait
Member since Aug 2016
524 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 8:33 am to
Didn’t they do the test swabs on bananas and other fruits and they came up positive for Covid ? The whole thing was a travesty and the leftist loons loved every second of it.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
119697 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 8:56 am to
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The study highlights the fact that we assigned deaths as Covid-related deaths like we had never done in a pandemic before.


To highlight the difference, here’s a decision tree for determining an H1N1 death.




Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
86489 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 9:13 am to
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What's your excuse on the lebron threads?
It is not my fault you can’t see that MJ vs LeBron is the same as us vs the leftist media dominated psycho bullshite.


MJ was great. Maaaaaaaaaaybe the best ever, but I doubt it. But there is NO question you and many others from that era have been brainwashed no different than a blue haired sky screamer who truly believes what the left media has sold them.

Every positive quality of Jordan was amplified to untold levels. While the bad was and still is hidden. In fact y’all will run around and not even entertain the idea that someone one day can even approach Jordan. Won’t even discuss the idea. The insane idea.

Y’all are identical to the left. You’re blind if you don’t see it.

Michael Jordan is your Kamala Harris/Joe Biden. There is no difference.
This post was edited on 4/29/25 at 9:21 am
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
31497 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 9:19 am to
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4cubbies


what a joke
Posted by idsrdum
Member since Jan 2017
549 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:57 am to
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The study highlights the fact that we assigned deaths as Covid-related deaths like we had never done in a pandemic before.

Exactly. As an example, the paper states:
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In the UK, Denmark, and other countries all deaths, for which a positive SARS-CoV-2 PCR test was recorded within the 30 days prior to the date of death, were registered as COVID-19 deaths

This is just another of the many insane public health policies regarding Covid.

What should have been happening was an unprecedented amount of autopsies. Instead, the opposite occurred. There was a novel pathogen, then a novel vaccine deployed, and fewer than ever autopsies. It is very unfortunate that a 2019 CMS rule change removed the requirement for hospital autopsies.

https://www.federalregister.gov/d/2019-20736

This rule change seemed to have not only removed the requirement for autopsies, but also imposed a burden to do so by requiring a formal consent notification system.
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We proposed to remove the requirement at § 482.22(d), which states that a hospital's medical staff should attempt to secure autopsies in all cases of unusual deaths and of medical-legal and educational interest. The mechanism for documenting permission to perform an autopsy must be defined and there must be a system for notifying the medical staff, and specifically the attending practitioner, when an autopsy is being performed.
Posted by Dolphinepride
Member since Oct 2024
110 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:02 am to
When did that happen? never heard that one/ cant find anything online
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
5263 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:15 am to
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When did that happen?


JBE was all over the place in 2020, but his weekly presser propaganda ramped up to the 9th power after he forced Dr.Alex Billoux's resignation and paraded Kanter and Catherine O'Neal in front of the cameras. JBE was a Covid case count and death count Nazi.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
119697 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:19 am to
I predicted in the beginning that state aid amounts would be apportioned at least partially based on Covid deaths totals.

The counting of cases and deaths was incentivized to amplify the severity of the disease.
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
2083 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:22 am to
Got to say just reading the comments knowing there is no virus is rather amusing.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
119697 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:23 am to
What’s your background?
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
5263 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:30 am to
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I predicted in the beginning that state aid amounts would be apportioned at least partially based on Covid deaths totals.

The counting of cases and deaths was incentivized to amplify the severity of the disease.


Spot on! Dr. Billoux flat out inferred LDH and CMS were inflating the numbers with duplicates like Robert/Bob, James/Jim, Juniors, II etc., and it wasn't long after that when JBE got Kanter in there to scare Louisianians into a frenzy. It was all about "follow the money" with that POS.
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