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re: Study: All Humanity Comes From One Couple.................... You don't say
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:42 am to FT
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:42 am to FT
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refuting this silliness
What did you refute ? You posted an article with words,"No, Humans Are Probably Not" . The frickin author of that piece has a theory but doesnt trust it enough to state his agrument as fact . Fact is , nobody knows shite but its interesting to listen to theories on both sides. . So , you didnt refute anything pal.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 11:50 am
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:43 am to BamaAtl
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Every male too, when you use mitochondrial DNA (which is only transferred from your mother)
This is an article that is severely misreporting the idea of "Mitochondrial Eve" There were women before her, but she is the one who has the current oldest mitochondrial lineage for the most modern individuals. Her mate is also not Y origin Adam either.
How do people get away with such sloppy writing?
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:46 am to Jjdoc
36 likes to 3 dislikes
go post this to a board where people know and understand fact-based science. I'll bet you leave a changed man/woman...
quote:
Jjdoc
go post this to a board where people know and understand fact-based science. I'll bet you leave a changed man/woman...
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:46 am to Sunbeam
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Cousins. It's cousins all the way back.
So humanity began in Tennessee?
What does the Bible say about incest?
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:49 am to BayouBlitz
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So humanity began in Tennessee?
4 real tho. 2 boys take turns to impregnate Mom?
Did Eve sleep with Able before or after he was killed by his brother??
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 11:50 am
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:13 pm to Displaced
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Like the geneology of Jesus according to Luke that suggest the Earth is ~5000 years old?
Like with science understanding changes. There are many models.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:17 pm to DreauxB2015
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What did you refute ? You posted an article with words,"No, Humans Are Probably Not" . The frickin author of that piece has a theory but doesnt trust it enough to state his agrument as fact . Fact is , nobody knows shite but its interesting to listen to theories on both sides. . So , you didnt refute anything pal.
From the article: Stoeckle and Thaler only ever said that their data was "consistent" with the existence of a founding pair. That doesn't mean much, and they immediately conceded that the same pattern could have arisen "within a founding population of thousands that was stable for tens of thousands of years". The fact is, genomic data doesn't do a great job of revealing the sizes of past populations except in broad-brush terms. The human population was probably pretty small for a long time, but there is no reason to think it was two.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:21 pm to Displaced
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) I'm not attacking the Bible, just the people who take a 3200-1500 year old book literally
"You" is meant in general. That is what was happening with some on the thread. That is what happens with scientists. They tend to want to apply laws or rules that does not apply. Then they refuse to apply those same laws to themselves and their work.
An example here is the writer linked that the poster states disproves the OP. He blasts the gap of time 100k to 200k years. Yet he turns around and uses his own gap.. 500k years to 10 MILLION years.
For him, it's ok. But only for him.
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) Again I ask, how do you prove a negative?
What negative are we proving?
You already know the answer.
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do literalists not have any onus of proof?
If they make a claim. They offer the body of work. Then you, again generalization of the whole, work to disprove it.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:26 pm to jptiger2009
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right.
he gets to pick and chose what is actual or "historical" and what else is "poetic".
No. That's not how it works. The writer is the one. Book in the Bible are written by different people throughout time.
Second, the Star Spangled Banner was written in a poetic form. The events were real.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:27 pm to BayouBlitz
I didn't say Adam and Eve. I simply posted the study.
It sounds more to me like Noah.
It sounds more to me like Noah.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:29 pm to BamaAtl
quote:ok cool hook em, but here's the difference: I consistently believe in a legitimate scientific approach, not when it's suddenly convenient.
Science currently points toward either a multiverse or expansion/contraction, neither of which require a beginning.
Science will never point toward an invisible sky fairy.
Science currently points to 2 genders. Watch how quickly you're not a scientist anymore.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:30 pm to Jjdoc
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He blasts the gap of time 100k to 200k years. Yet he turns around and uses his own gap.. 500k years to 10 MILLION years.
These time frames aren't comparable dude, one is an estimation for the mitochondrial line origin in modern humans and the other is an estimation of the amount of time it takes a species to come into being and to become extinct/evolve/speciate further.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:32 pm to Jjdoc
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I didn't say Adam and Eve. I simply posted the study.
It sounds more to me like Noah.
You didn't post the study at all, you posted opinion pieces based on the study.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:40 pm to jptiger2009
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go post this to a board where people know and understand fact-based science. I'll bet you leave a changed man/woman...
I kinda doubt that. Been there, done that.
It always comes down to the fact that some people lack the ability to understand what they are reading on the Bible.
I have a Nuclear Physicist friend who could not understand the reading of Genesis. His argument to me was life could not happen without light. He concluded that because of that Genesis is wrong therefore the Bible is wrong.
My response was God started with light. He would not accept that. Why? Because I am not allowed to start at that verse, I had to start at the first verse. In the beginning God created..... to him that was an act of creation. But it's not. It's to say "once up on a time God created".... then it breaks down the acts and in order.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:43 pm to Jjdoc
Oh Good God, you're a Hovindnite?
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:43 pm to jptiger2009
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go post this to a board where people know and understand fact-based science.
quote:Checks out
I'll bet you leave a changed man/woman...
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:53 pm to blackrose890
Yes dude.... it comparable. That's the entire point. And it's done in science every day.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:53 pm to Jjdoc
quote:I thought Earth was only like 10,000 years old though
a single common female ancestor who lived around 200,000 years ago.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:04 pm to Jjdoc
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. it comparable. That's the entire point. And it's done in science every day.
Explain to me then, how is the estimated average length of time for a species to exist comparable to the current estimated lineage of a specific mitochondrial line?
These 2 lengths of time are not comparable.
There were women before this Mitochondrial Eve and women contemporary with her. So her 100k-200k year snapshot doesn't trigger the beginning of the species, but rather a specific coding that persists in the species that all members currently share in lineage.
Where as the other time period is the predicted estimate from the beginning of a species to the end of it.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:14 pm to blackrose890
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Oh Good God, you're a Hovindnite?
It sounds like to me you wanted to use a long word.
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