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re: Street Cop Training - This is a window into why Policing in America is complete shite

Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39010 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:18 pm to
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“The Civil Rights Lawyer” that dude would definitely have an unbiased opinion of the police right?


He's not an activist. By the books guy if you watch his videos, citing Statutes and of course the Constitution of which many cops in his videos have never heard of but "create field law" with their "authority" on legality what their police chief says.
Posted by BeesWax
Member since Mar 2025
695 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:20 pm to
Yes you said it’s a window into why policing is “complete shite” so the clear implication is that the problem of this type of training, not this specific company, is taught to the majority. “Complete” is an even stronger word than most. I was being generous to you.
Posted by BeesWax
Member since Mar 2025
695 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:23 pm to
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But they managed to go for years without a single police officer saying a damn thing

You made this up out of thin air.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:26 pm to
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Yes you said it’s a window into why policing is “complete shite” so the clear implication is that the problem of this type of training, not this specific company, is taught to the majority. “Complete” is an even stronger word than most. I was being generous to you.

Yes. This is a window into the overall larger problem that exists even outside of this company. That's the point. It's not like this company with some giant Secret within the police world. And Despite the fact they've been exposed for what they are many municipalities are still hiring them. When you couple that reality with you literally hundreds upon hundreds of videos depicting police officers actually practicing some of these types of behaviors it's clear that this company isn't even that unusual in terms of the thinking that exists around policing in America. Hell I'll bet you at least half the people on this board would approve of this training!

Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:27 pm to
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You made this up out of thin air

Nope. They managed to train officers in groups of hundreds at a time without being exposed. So if the police officers were speaking up they were being damn fricking quiet about it
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19417 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:31 pm to
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Probably 98% of cops have no training from this company or any similar one. You’re wrong about this being how most cops are trained.

Liberals are the dumbest people on the planet. We do not need to “defund the police”. We need more funding for training, not less. Most of the cops would do a good job if trained properly. I listened to a law enforcement expert that said around 20% of all work hours for officers needs to be spent of constant training into all aspects of police work. This would be a good start.
Posted by BeesWax
Member since Mar 2025
695 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:31 pm to
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Yes. This is a window into the overall larger problem that exists even outside of this company. That's the point. It's not like this company with some giant Secret within the police world. And Despite the fact they've been exposed for what they are many municipalities are still hiring them. When you couple that reality with you literally hundreds upon hundreds of videos depicting police officers actually practicing some of these types of behaviors it's clear that this company isn't even that unusual in terms of the thinking that exists around policing in America. Hell I'll bet you at least half the people on this board would approve of this training!


So we circle back to my initial post. Not sure why you rejected the accusation of most only to come back around to it. We all knew that was your point anyway.

As for the claim, no officer ever spoke against the training, provide the evidence. Or yes you made it up out of thin air.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71586 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:35 pm to
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yes every cop is a criminal and all the sinners saints you need to grow up jethro. i hope your arse gets tazed on routine traffic stop you're a child.

Come on man......just try throwing a comma in there somewhere and see what happens.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:36 pm to
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So we circle back to my initial post. Not sure why you rejected the accusation of most only to come back around to it. We all knew that was your point anyway

You claimed that I asserted that these people trained most police officers. That claim wasn't supportable which is why I pushed back.

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As for the claim, no officer ever spoke against the training, provide the evidence. Or yes you made it up out of thin air

They were exposed by a police officer who did speak up. In other words when somebody finally spoke up it became a problem which by definition means that prior to that nobody gave a shite. I can already anticipate your response. Some police officer may be told his boss but the boss didn't do anything. Well that's not exactly an Improvement is it? Besides they have these wonderful people called journalists that would be happy to catch such a story if a police officer really wanted to speak up
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67435 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:37 pm to
You are the one that needs to grow up.
We need more professionalism in the ranks… not reactionary bullshite.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:38 pm to
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Liberals are the dumbest people on the planet. We do not need to “defund the police”. We need more funding for training, not less.

I'm not liberal although I suspect you think I am. But I agree with everything you wrote above. Defund the police is a stupid movement. It would only exacerbate the problem.

This post was edited on 7/19/25 at 12:39 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26915 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:39 pm to
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as my mother in law used to say poor folks have got poor ways


Are capital letters and punctuation some of those ways?
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19417 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:40 pm to
Reactionary bullshite like “Defund the Police”? LOL, dumbest messaging I’ve ever heard in my life. Polarizing and reactionary messaging.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:41 pm to
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“The Civil Rights Lawyer”


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No way he’s got an agenda.


His agenda is your rights.
Posted by BeesWax
Member since Mar 2025
695 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:41 pm to
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You claimed that I asserted that these people trained most police officers. That claim wasn't supportable which is why I pushed back.

No go re-read it. The point of my post was you were claiming that most police receive this type of training. And you’ve already admitted this was true.

As for the other thing, my claim was you made it up out of thin air and you did. Now you are changing it to say “well even if they did tell, there was no improvement.” My point still stands.
Posted by Jspaspa3303
Member since Jun 2020
2925 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:43 pm to
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Lol. No. Not even remotely everything. And my deal with cops is the same deal I have with trusting government. As a conservative who recognizes that government can't be trusted I also recognize that the tip of the spear of government should be watched closely too. I'm frankly befuddled that the same conservatives who recognized that the welfare office can't be trusted trust the police implicitly. They work for the same people dummies!


You have bad actors in every profession. However you have many “cops” who are on the same side as you , and think as you do . It’s an 80/20 issue, and there are plenty of other topics with government that need addressing . Addressing cops is at the bottom of the list . It’s a hard annd dangerous job and I’m thankful they do it .
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19417 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:44 pm to
I think there are probably some police departments that are well run. Nothing is perfect and improvements are always possible. When police officers are well trained and the culture is good that’s the standard. More best practices training and more time in training for our police.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17995 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 12:44 pm to
If you would ever like to do a ride along with me as a Probation & Parole Officer Sex Offender and High Risk cases I’d glad to take you along so you can experience just how fricking insane the streets are these days. I do must of my field work from 8pm until around 2 am. That’s because that’s when crime spikes. We want to be out there when it’s most likely to occur.

This week we had two female Officer get attacked and badly injured by a Pit Bull that was released on them as they approached a home. They both have to get Rabies shits because the a-hole dog was not vaccinated.

Once you’ve ridden along, I’d like to see a report back about how awful law enforcement officers are today.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 1:03 pm to
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No go re-read it. The point of my post was you were claiming that most police receive this type of training

Ahh. OK. Well my actual point is that most police officers reflect the attitude that resulted in this kind of training being considered okay. I actually find the training to be reflection not the cause
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
25243 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 1:05 pm to
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yes every cop is a criminal and all the sinners saints


That’s not at all what he said, and your idiotic reply is just one more data point in the dumbing down of American political discourse.
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