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re: Stop acting like we’re not a democracy, we’re a republic. We’re both.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:05 pm to TN Tygah
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:05 pm to TN Tygah
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Look up the definition of representative democracy. It is not that hard.
Look up the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence and show me where the word " Democracy " appears.
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Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Why are y'all so obsessed with turning this into a binary scenario?
Why are you obsessed with creating scenarios to argue about, that no one else is arguing?
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:15 pm to homesicktiger
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Why are you obsessed with creating scenarios to argue about, that no one else is arguing?
Plenty have argued ITT we are a Republic and not a democratic. That's binary (a false choice, to be specific).
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:21 pm to SOSFAN
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Look up the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence and show me where the word " Democracy " appears.
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The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.
No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.
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The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof, for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote.
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But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively.
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The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.
The Congress shall assemble at least once in every Year, and such Meeting shall be on the first Monday in December, unless they shall by Law appoint a different Day.
Lots of democracy in the Constitution. That was just a quick sampling.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Plenty have argued ITT we are a Republic and not a democratic. That's binary (a
The only concrete fact we have to go by are the founding fathers documents. So , we can all have opinions on what it means, but the only factual word used is Republic.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Lots of democracy in the Constitution
How about post where the actual word " democracy " is used. Until then it's just a opinion.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:26 pm to SOSFAN
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The only concrete fact we have to go by are the founding fathers documents.
What about their actions?
How was our first Congress chosen?
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:26 pm to SOSFAN
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How about post where the actual word " democracy " is used. Until then it's just a opinion.
Or you're asking a bad question built in faulty logic.
And you're using this as a shield to defend your position irrationally.
It would be quite amusing if it wasn't so sad and a sign of how far this board has fallen.
This post was edited on 10/11/24 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
I don’t see Democracy mentioned in any of that. Is it a lawyer thing to create shite out of thin air?
Posted on 10/11/24 at 5:53 pm to StarksofWinterfell8
Alter number 15?
Posted on 10/11/24 at 6:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
Your arguments remind me of KJP and that Iraq general in the 90s, everything is fine ladies and gentlemen, we are repelling the US attacks with ease. You got the communist gaslighting technique down perfect. Starting to be kind of amusing actually so keep it up slick.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 6:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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And you're using this as a shield to defend your position irrationally.
So by using the correct word that does show up in the founding fathers documents as a shield and you using a word that doesn't show up I'm the irrational one...
Posted on 10/11/24 at 8:41 pm to TN Tygah
Go sell that nonsense elsewhere.
WE ARE A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC that is being imploded from winning by enemies of the State that some of you morons on this board support their cause, until that door shuts in Libtards faces, you think your on the right side of history,
But if we don’t turn this around, nobody will be safe. they want complete chaos, lawlessness so they.can declare Martial Law & then hurd the general public into 15 minute cities.
WE ARE A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC that is being imploded from winning by enemies of the State that some of you morons on this board support their cause, until that door shuts in Libtards faces, you think your on the right side of history,
But if we don’t turn this around, nobody will be safe. they want complete chaos, lawlessness so they.can declare Martial Law & then hurd the general public into 15 minute cities.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 9:18 pm to TN Tygah
Umm. It’s a representative republic. Has anyone told you otherwise?
Posted on 10/11/24 at 9:46 pm to TN Tygah
Dude, STFU.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 10:45 pm to TN Tygah
Shut up nerd!
Posted on 10/11/24 at 10:53 pm to TN Tygah
This is it 100% A constitutional republic is a type of democracy. The right, I'm one of them, often has a hard time with this as we are not a side that like to be detailed or nuanced. We attack each other over being a "real" conservative and we call fascist leftist "liberals" when that is the last thing they are. The USA is a type of democracy based on the ideas and structure of a connotational representative republic.
Posted on 10/13/24 at 6:33 am to hansenthered1
The bigger problem is what the left means by using the word “democracy”, it’s their ticket to get rid of our Constitutional Republic. 51% can be fudged as we have seen and therein lies the problem of “democracy”. Oh look 51% said we need to regulate speech, oh look 51% said you need to turn in your guns, we’ll 51% said you need to inject this experimental drug into your body, and so on… A democracy? No thanks, since we have the Constitution I will refer to our Constitutional Republic and that’s MY individual right.
We need representatives that are willing to make laws holding lawmakers to task of adhering to the Constitution. Severe penalties need to by handed down to those that do not abide by our CONTRACT. Zero tolerance for loose interpretation of our rights, our rights are default! Notice how we always get laws passed that apply to normal law abiding citizens as a control mechanism, democracy??? No thanks.
We need representatives that are willing to make laws holding lawmakers to task of adhering to the Constitution. Severe penalties need to by handed down to those that do not abide by our CONTRACT. Zero tolerance for loose interpretation of our rights, our rights are default! Notice how we always get laws passed that apply to normal law abiding citizens as a control mechanism, democracy??? No thanks.
This post was edited on 10/13/24 at 6:38 am
Posted on 10/13/24 at 6:57 am to SOSFAN
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So by using the correct word that does show up in the founding fathers documents as a shield and you using a word that doesn't show up I'm the irrational one...
Your argument (Via your choice of questioning) is dishonest, and you're defending that dishonesty irrationally.
The word "federal" doesn't appear in the Constitution either. By your argument, we're not a federal system of government, either.
Is that your position?
Posted on 10/13/24 at 8:23 am to SlowFlowPro
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Your argument (Via your choice of questioning) is dishonest, and you're defending that dishonesty irrationally.
So my argument that the word " democracy " doesn't appear in the Constitution nor Declaration of Independence is dishonest yet you still can't prove that wrong.
You do realize this isn't DU and the people on this forum see right through your bullshite.
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