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re: State AG Sets Stage to Have All Biden Pardons, Exec Orders, Other Actions Legally Voided

Posted on 3/8/25 at 10:52 am to
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
3396 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 10:52 am to
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Is Missouri taking over as the most based state?

MO just put abortions into their constitution so hard to be the most based. Though the AG, and others trying to find ways to confront it. So based in key positions, for now, but the people themselves have issues.

Currently they are trying to hold abortion clinics, ie Planned Parenthood, to having an emergency response to abortions that have issues. Apparently there is a law that requires this for medical procedures that have more than a 1% med issue. Abortions have approx 5%, so it's a good avenue to attempt. Unfortunately, the abortion amendment indemnifies abortion clinics, so the fight will be if the PPs will even have to care about that law.

MO definitely has its issues, and may not be going down the right path. Weed and gambling won't help improve these issues long term. I would check back in to their "based" cred in a decade.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25996 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 11:20 am to
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What would you say about a sitting President legally declared mentally unfit to stand trial? Speaker Johnson can give testimony that Biden had no idea about an E.O. he signed on LNG. They used an autopen for Biden.


None of that changes the fact that he was legally the sitting President at the time those orders were made. You cannot legally undue that after the fact under our Constitution, no matter the circumstances.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38307 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 11:24 am to
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You don't even realize how much you look like a 2016-2020 liberal.


Explain this idea in more detail
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
87068 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 11:26 am to
How do they plan on proving he didn’t know what he was signing?

Posted by jt696
Member since Dec 2007
4995 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 11:30 am to
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AG Andrew Bailey


Bondi’s replacement.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12068 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 11:35 am to
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The answer is to apply the 25th Amendment, and have that president removed from office. That didn't happen. Maybe it should've.


Not having the votes for that isn’t a green light for a party to go full weekend at Bernie’s with a president though.

Was that the case here? I’m sure strong consensus in this board but will be curious to see results
This post was edited on 3/8/25 at 11:36 am
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
51601 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 11:37 am to
So the lead on this task is NOT Trump's FedGov but rather a State AG in Missouri.

That's not what I call "Taking the Initiative", Ms. Bondi.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452324 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 11:44 am to
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Not having the votes for that isn’t a green light for a party to go full weekend at Bernie’s with a president though.

You're talking politics now, not the legal discussion.

We can even use the Elon talking points and just call them "advisors"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452324 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 11:45 am to
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So the lead on this task is NOT Trump's FedGov but rather a State AG in Missouri.

That's not what I call "Taking the Initiative", Ms. Bondi.


Bondi, for all of her faults AND media apperances, isn't' the attention whore Bailey is
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
32484 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 11:50 am to
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Unless I missed the invocation of the 25th Amendment, it is not.

Wtf? So you’re saying that one can’t be true without the other?

I guess a murderer isn’t a murderer unless they get convicted of murder.
This post was edited on 3/8/25 at 12:05 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
82849 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 11:55 am to
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Bondi’s replacement.


Exactly why he’s tossing this red meat out to the base.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
15853 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 12:11 pm to
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Unless I missed the invocation of the 25th Amendment, it is not.

Just like we have the impeachment-removal process for acts while President, we have the 25th Amendment for this issue. That's the legal solution.

I knew without clicking it was the blowhard AG from MO, too. He's going to keep breaking your hearts after giving you hope with these silly lawsuits that are nothing more than ploys for media/optics coverage and pushing echoes into the chamber.





Ok Slow. I have a legal question for an esteemed attorney such as yourself.

If someone (not Joe Biden) used Bidens autopen signature to sign Executive Orders or issue Pardons that would be illegal correct?

If Biden was mentally impaired (like Hurr asserted) would it not be possible that other people were doing things on his behalf and saying Joe signed them without him actually knowing what was done. That would also be illegal, correct?
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
2151 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 12:13 pm to
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Not having the votes for that isn’t a green light for a party to go full weekend at Bernie’s with a president though.

Well, that's just our imperfect system where literally anybody can be president. Our system is robust enough to overcome that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452324 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 12:15 pm to
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Wtf? So you’re saying that one can’t be true without the other?

Yes. That's why we have the 25th Amendment, specifically.

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I guess a murderer isn’t a murderer unless they get convicted of murder.

Bad analogy. You won't go to jail, be restricted from being able to possess a gun, or some other externality ONLY if you're convicted of murder.

You can murder someone without facing the effects of that because the process to make those effects felt requires a prosecution. That step did not occur for Biden.

People murder others every day without facing the consequences. Doesn't change the fact that they are murderers, objectively.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
51490 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 12:15 pm to
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Is Missouri taking over as the most based state?


The people who have generational roots dating back to the early to mid 1800's are straight up gangster rebels. They were fighting the Unionists five years before the first shot was fired at Fort Sumter and some continued fighting after the CSA surrendered.




This post was edited on 3/8/25 at 12:19 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
51490 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 12:21 pm to
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MO just put abortions into their constitution so hard to be the most based. Though the AG, and others trying to find ways to confront it. So based in key positions, for now, but the people themselves have issues.


You don't know shite about the people in Missouri. You get outside of KC, St Louis and Columbia it's blood red MAGA.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
2151 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 12:21 pm to
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Explain this idea in more detail

Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
52085 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 12:23 pm to
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Stop wasting tax payers money on brain fart ideas that has no merit it’s embarrassing.


So now we are back to worrying about tax payers. Make up your damn mind
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38307 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 12:27 pm to
I am not asking for a gif. I am asking for you to use words to describe your point in more detail
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
2151 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 12:33 pm to
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I am asking for you to use words to describe your point in more detail

It's not my fault you want to be intentionally obtuse.

Just enjoy the gifs.
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