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re: STARMER: UK READY TO DEPLOY TROOPS AND JETS FOR UKRAINE PEACE DEAL

Posted on 3/2/25 at 11:59 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466158 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 11:59 am to
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If they insist on putting combat troops into conflict with Russia we must insist on not being dragged into via the NATO charter.

We wouldn't be dragged in over a conflict within the borders of Ukraine.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21351 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 11:59 am to
We need to immediately withdraw from NATO before those globalist fools draw us into an armed conflict with Russia.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35455 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:00 pm to
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Good for them, as long as we're not involved. Not our fight

If their "peace deal" includes UK boots on the ground in Ukraine, there will be no peace deal.

But you're right. Let them waste their own money and lives over there and start WW3. They don't have the money to fund a proxy war to protect an international money laundering State. Let them fund it and fall.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466158 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:00 pm to
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This will be a disaster for all of these European countries.

And if it's not?

It will be like that quote from Margin Call

quote:

Well then, the same people are gonna laugh till they piss their pants cause we're gonna all look like the biggest pussies God ever let through the door.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39610 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

In this specific instance, this conflict started in late 2013 by Russia (directly or indirectly) thwarting EU integration of Ukraine. That matters to the EU.


Ahh. So the EU can flood Ukraine with culture like the rest of the EU.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30903 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:02 pm to
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Europe must do the heavy lifting. But to support peace in our continent and to succeed, this effort must have strong U.S. backing.”


In other words, when the EU and the UK bite more than they can chew they expect us to bail them out. AGAIN!
Posted by Nevada
Member since Nov 2019
470 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:02 pm to
ZERO entangling alliances, INCLUDING WITH ISRAEL,
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21351 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

quote:
This will be a disaster for all of these European countries.

And if it's not?


I don't care if it's a disaster or a success. The globalist neocons in our own government and the EU are attempting to push us in a corner and force the US into an armed conflict with Russia.
frick that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466158 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:04 pm to
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The globalist neocons in our own government and the EU are attempting to push us in a corner and force the US into an armed conflict with Russia.

It's very difficult to use the "globalist" talking point with this conflict, at this point.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48829 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:05 pm to
This is their attempt to trap the USA. UK provides troops and jets. Things go sideways and Russia is cornered and attacks a NATO country. USA is obligated to defend them and they get the WW III they all want.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18750 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:05 pm to
The entire defense budget for Great Britain is 60 billion, thats about 23 hours of spending by the ukraine laundromat.
Posted by BuckeyeWarrior
Naples, FL
Member since Jan 2025
622 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:05 pm to
He’s been saying this for months. Until he actually carries through with his word, this is just virtue signaling.
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
1868 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:05 pm to
and then he added "Europe must do the heavy lifting. But to support peace in our continent and to succeed, this effort must have strong U.S. backing.”
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
19267 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:06 pm to
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Sending the rest of the whites to die while the muzzies say frick that we are taking this country


That's why being on Russia's side makes more sense than the EU cucks. They've given their countries over to foreign invaders, while ignoring and hating their own citizens. Ukraine is nothing more than a money laundering country in the middle of a civil war, where outsiders have no business getting involved.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
12667 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:06 pm to
Go get'em bulldogs! We're rootin' fer ya.
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9630 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

Europe must do the heavy lifting.


BUT

quote:

this effort must have strong U.S. backing.


So here we are again. We don’t need the USA. But… we need the USA.

We stand with Ukraine… and we say we will do the heavy lifting… but the USA will have to be the heavy lifting behind the heavy lifting.

Can’t Europe ever be responsible for its own shite, in anything? They’re like parasites.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
8722 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:09 pm to
If that’s what European countries choose to do in their own backyard then that’s their call.

I do not think Europe will be successful in eventually “busting” Putin and Russia and restoring Ukrainian borders to pre-invasion standards but if Europe wants to devote the finances, continued death and destruction to find out for sure, that’s for them to decide.

The U.S. has other matters to focus on.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
12667 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:10 pm to
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USA should leave NATO.

Start new alliances.


Absolutely! We don't have allies right now; we have a group who don't want to support our work like they should and get us into the worst conflicts with no resolution in sight.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
24582 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:10 pm to
Why didn’t Euro do this at the start, if it means so much.

This is just bluster and in the end they will do nothing.
Posted by SaintsTiger
1,000,000 Posts
Member since Oct 2014
1948 posts
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:10 pm to
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Good for them, as long as we're not involved. Not our fight.


“Must be backed by the US” is what he said.
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