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re: Stand Your Ground: Florida woman NOT charged in parking lot shooting
Posted on 9/5/26 at 9:37 am to PaulDrake
Posted on 9/5/26 at 9:37 am to PaulDrake
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personally would have never reacted the way he did but there were no grounds for self defense, even the DA admitted that as you can see in the above quote
Cold blooded murder by a woman with no impulse control
Still stupid. And you give your true feelings on the matter away with the retarded comment about the woman having no impulse control. The reality that we all saw was that she showed considerable impulse control by repeatedly trying to walk away from the man even with the pistol drawn.
You're clearly biased due to her race and if the races were reversed and that was a white woman being pursued by a black man your opinion on this would be completely different. You would be, RIGHTLY, saying that it was in fact the MAN who showed no impulse control. Because that's how it actually was. The man here could not control his emotions, clearly. If he had been able to he would have walked the frick away when the woman with the fricking pistol drawn on him told him to leave her the frick alone.
They said they can't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt because they can't. The video clearly shows a woman who felt threatened, drew a pistol, repeatedly told the man to leave her alone, and he wouldn't, like a frickin retard.
Stop letting your racism cloud your judgment.
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Posted on 9/5/26 at 9:43 am to IvoryBillMatt
How exactly is a parking place a stand your ground issue?
Posted on 9/5/26 at 9:46 am to PaulDrake
Paul, this one is difficult.
The guy was acting aggressively.
Neither did enough to avoid this.
But I support standing your ground and want to make sure I have the same opportunity to defend myself and family from violent loons making threats.
The guy was acting aggressively.
Neither did enough to avoid this.
But I support standing your ground and want to make sure I have the same opportunity to defend myself and family from violent loons making threats.
Posted on 9/5/26 at 9:54 am to IvoryBillMatt
I'm not qualified to speak to the legalities of this incident but I know it's dumb as frick to risk getting yourself shot over a damn parking spot. Find another one and move on with your life. Geez
Posted on 9/5/26 at 9:56 am to IvoryBillMatt
This is fuc^ing insane.
Let's take a look at their D.A. I wonder what his/her complexion is?
Let's take a look at their D.A. I wonder what his/her complexion is?
Posted on 9/5/26 at 10:25 am to IvoryBillMatt
I've seen people on IG saying "hE wAs No tHrEaT tO HeR" but I don't see that. Bro continued to advance towards a visibly armed woman who had warned him off MANY times. He had an unfathomable amount of time to make what is essentially a split-second decision to just simply walk away and preserve his life and let this be a non-issue, but he instead chose to continue to instigate and act in an aggressive manner.
It's always sad when someone dies, especially over something so stupid, but this guy was (in legal terms) begging to be shot. FA/FO.
There's too much pride in people nowadays and that coincides with society being more unpredictable, unstable and volatile than ever. People need to re-learn that there is certainly a time to walk away.
It's always sad when someone dies, especially over something so stupid, but this guy was (in legal terms) begging to be shot. FA/FO.
There's too much pride in people nowadays and that coincides with society being more unpredictable, unstable and volatile than ever. People need to re-learn that there is certainly a time to walk away.
Posted on 9/5/26 at 10:34 am to hogcard1964
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This is fuc^ing insane.
Let's take a look at their D.A. I wonder what his/her complexion is?
you wouldn't say this if the races were reversed
Posted on 9/5/26 at 10:37 am to PaulDrake
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Bad decision by the DA and an injustice for the victim.
She had no need to shoot him or fear for her life especially when she got out of her car with the gun and shot him when he was a car length away and never laid a hand on her.
Too bad he probably doesn`t have anyone to fight for him.
Sad situation.
Agree
Let's see how many people rally around him.
She had no reason to leave her vehicle twice.
This isn't over.
Posted on 9/5/26 at 11:40 am to bluedragon
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She brought a gun to a fist fight.
It was a well reasoned decision. She was also at a physical disadvantage. That’s a legal justification that cops learns. Cops also learn the benefit of the 1+1 theory. There is no duty to confront force with equal force.
Posted on 9/5/26 at 12:06 pm to Willie Stroker
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Any self defense instructor worth a salt will tell you that as a carrier, you do NOT escalate a situation. Whether physically or verbally, you don't provoke the other party.
True but irrelevant to the circumstances.
Not trying to be a troll. Just asking for a clarification. To the cirmstances generally, or in this particular case?
Again, not trolling, I'm staying out of it whether I think this was a right or wrong shoot. I'm just in the self defense conversation.
Posted on 9/5/26 at 12:19 pm to IvoryBillMatt
It took a bit of searching because this part is usually left out for obviously reasons but I did find a video showing the woman aggressively shouting pointing a gun at him and walking toward him as he was walking away from her.
Many people have not seen this part because it shows her guilt.
This is not behavior of a woman fearing for her life, this is aggressive and all rights to self defense are lost by this action alone.
:32 sec. on the video.
LINK
Many people have not seen this part because it shows her guilt.
This is not behavior of a woman fearing for her life, this is aggressive and all rights to self defense are lost by this action alone.
:32 sec. on the video.
LINK
Posted on 9/5/26 at 12:19 pm to cajunangelle
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How exactly is a parking place a stand your ground issue?
Are you confusing it with the Castle Doctrine?
"Historically, the common-law rule was a duty to retreat: outside the home, if you could safely retreat from an attack, you generally had to do so before using deadly force. The Castle Doctrine was the major exception—you generally didn't have to flee from your own home.
Stand-your-ground doctrine eliminates that retreat requirement. If you are somewhere you have a legal right to be, you don't have to retreat before using otherwise justified force."
Posted on 9/5/26 at 12:28 pm to LSUbest
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So they could not prove that she was guilty and declined to prosecute. Everything else is garbage.
This is another thing that I'm jealous of her for.
Prosecutors can be some serious mofos and have put charges on defenders for significantly less.
I know (irl know) people who have had to fight their case to get back out of jail because of rogue prosecutors. And I been in the same situation myself.
The one that REALLY sucks, is when a person thinks things are done with, and the police clear them, and we just go on with our lives. Then the cops show back up several days later, bracelets go on, because the prosecutor disagreed with the cops.
Posted on 9/5/26 at 12:33 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Are you confusing it with the Castle Doctrine?
"Historically, the common-law rule was a duty to retreat: outside the home, if you could safely retreat from an attack, you generally had to do so before using deadly force. The Castle Doctrine was the major exception—you generally didn't have to flee from your own home.
Stand-your-ground doctrine eliminates that retreat requirement. If you are somewhere you have a legal right to be, you don't have to retreat before using otherwise justified force."
It's a good question, IBM.
The difference between stand your ground and castle doctrine is different. Castle doctrine applies to when you are inside a home/dwelling. (Some states include a car/vehicle. Others don't.)
Stand your ground or duty to retreat applies when you are not on the premises of your home/dwelling.
Duty to retreat is that you first have to make any reasonable attempt to escape the situation, before you legally (unconstitutionally) are allowed to use force.
Stand your ground negates that obligation.
This post was edited on 9/5/26 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 9/5/26 at 12:46 pm to BoarEd
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Stop letting your racism cloud your judgment.
Facts aren't racist. And I'm saying this completely OUTSIDE the situation on hand.
But I could introduce people to an entire group of black men who would say not to get into these situations with black women.
They will escalate a situation to drive a man to where they can call the cops on him. They want to put him in jail.
And they say that, because it's true. It's happened to them personally, or to their bros.
When black women (and to some degree of black men raised solely by them) they are getting aggressive to be able to play the victim card when they call the cops. Or to be justified legally for anything that happens.
Again, I do not know the whole story in this situation. But to presume that a woman, regardless of race, but especially this race, would not provoke a situation, is dangerous to the people who around them.
Posted on 9/5/26 at 12:57 pm to sitd
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This is fuc^ing insane.
Let's take a look at their D.A. I wonder what his/her complexion is?
you wouldn't say this if the races were reversed
You would if you read the post, detailing the DA. Particularly the buzzwords "equity and fairness". Soros attorney.
Posted on 9/5/26 at 1:12 pm to Willie Stroker
He sealed his own fate. Fighting over a parking space at a shopping center. There must have been vacant spot nearby…..
Senseless
Senseless
Posted on 9/5/26 at 1:43 pm to BoarEd
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The reality that we all saw was that she showed considerable impulse control by repeatedly trying to walk away from the man even with the pistol drawn.
NGL, I thought she was going to kick him or shoot him again when she first walked over to him on the ground.
I've seen that heat of the moment reaction, on several occasions.
The fact that she did not, where others have, is indeed impulse control.
The fact that she only pulled once (that the videos show) is also impulse control (unless she unintentionally discharged, which she obviously didn't admit to. Negligent discharge would have gotten her arrested). But the single shot doesn't happen much around here. It's usually 3 or more. Many times, around here, the entire mag.
This post was edited on 9/5/26 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 9/5/26 at 2:41 pm to Wolfwireless
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Not trying to be a troll. Just asking for a clarification. To the cirmstances generally, or in this particular case? Again, not trolling, I'm staying out of it whether I think this was a right or wrong shoot. I'm just in the self defense conversation.
In this case.
Who escalates and how they attempt to deescalate is always a factor.
Posted on 9/5/26 at 2:44 pm to BoarEd
Have you seen this part of the videos?
It took a bit of searching because this part is usually left out for obviously reasons but I did find a video showing the woman aggressively shouting pointing a gun at him and walking toward him as he was walking away from her.
Many people have not seen this part because it shows her guilt.
This is not behavior of a woman fearing for her life, this is aggressive and all rights to self defense are lost by this action alone.
:32 sec. on the video.
LINK
It took a bit of searching because this part is usually left out for obviously reasons but I did find a video showing the woman aggressively shouting pointing a gun at him and walking toward him as he was walking away from her.
Many people have not seen this part because it shows her guilt.
This is not behavior of a woman fearing for her life, this is aggressive and all rights to self defense are lost by this action alone.
:32 sec. on the video.
LINK
This post was edited on 9/5/26 at 2:46 pm
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