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re: St. George vs. EBR Parish: Is Overcrowding the Problem with EBR Schools?
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:56 pm to doubleb
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:56 pm to doubleb
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Again the lack of public schools in SG is just a quirk. Nothing was sinister or underhanded .
I'd also put money on it that the SG area schools are all larger and have more classes per grade.
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Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:02 pm to Golfer
I didn't think of that angle and I should have. I know someone who teaches at what would be a SG elementary school and there are five classes in just her grade at that school.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:03 pm to LSURussian
Actually about 447K but not nearly 800K +
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:05 pm to doubleb
The city of Baton Rouge is ~230k
East Baton Rouge Parish is ~445k
The Baton Rouge Metro Area is ~810k
East Baton Rouge Parish is ~445k
The Baton Rouge Metro Area is ~810k
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:06 pm to doubleb
METRO BR is not the same as the city of BR.
Golfer explained that above.
That's why I laughed. Simple definitions confuse d in arse and apparently you, too.
Golfer explained that above.
That's why I laughed. Simple definitions confuse d in arse and apparently you, too.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:15 pm to LSURussian
If the whole parish is 445k, as I posted, why would a discussion on parish schools have any relevance to an 800k figure? Y'all are making zero sense.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:20 pm to dragginass
You said metro BR. Not me.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:21 pm to dragginass
It involves words & numbers. You wouldn't understand.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:26 pm to Golfer
Excuse me for not denoting that I was not referring to the statistical census category.
So we can all agree then that the population of incorporated BR is 230k, St.George is about 107k, and the parish as a whole is about 440k.
FACT: There are 7 schools in the unincorporated area of St.George. None south of I-10.
So we can all agree then that the population of incorporated BR is 230k, St.George is about 107k, and the parish as a whole is about 440k.
FACT: There are 7 schools in the unincorporated area of St.George. None south of I-10.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:29 pm to dragginass
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FACT: There are 7 schools in the unincorporated area of St.George. None south of I-10.
Outside of Gardere, what of this area that's West of i10 has really been established for a significant time frame?
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:30 pm to dragginass
quote:What is the student-teacher ratio at those schools and are any of them over crowded?
There are 7 schools in the unincorporated area of St.George
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:34 pm to Golfer
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Outside of Gardere, what of this area that's West of i10 has really been established for a significant time frame?
Highland, oak hills, st.George, Perkins etc
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:38 pm to dragginass
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So metro BR has 230k residents and about 70 schools, and st.George has 100k and 7 schools. The conclusion is still pretty clear.....
Yeah. A higher percentage of St. George students are in private schools. Is the Parish supposed to run schools for kids who don't attend?
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:17 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:It should make it practical for those kids to attend public schools. How much time should those children spend being transported to and from the public schools that exist within the parish? Transportation time is wasted time as far as child development goes. It detracts from study or participation in extracurricular activities.
A higher percentage of St. George students are in private schools. Is the Parish supposed to run schools for kids who don't attend?
I find it just about inconceivable that anyone opposing the incorporation of St. George could resort to an argument based on education. It is the abject failure of the EBR public school system, and its refusal to address the concerns of the St. George area residents, that precipitated the effort at incorporation. Defending the status quo is just more fuel for the fire.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:24 am to BugAC
City of Baton Rouge has a population of around 230,000......as an interesting side note, it's the only large city in Louisiana to see continuous population growth since they have been taking a census every decade. The area the East Baton Rouge Parish metro council governs is actually more populated than the city of Atlanta, Birmingham, or New Orleans.
This would be a really cool place for a "the more you know" graphic.
This would be a really cool place for a "the more you know" graphic.
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 8:29 am
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:31 am to Poodlebrain
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It should make it practical for those kids to attend public schools. How much time should those children spend being transported to and from the public schools that exist within the parish? Transportation time is wasted time as far as child development goes. It detracts from study or participation in extracurricular activities. I find it just about inconceivable that anyone opposing the incorporation of St. George could resort to an argument based on education. It is the abject failure of the EBR public school system, and its refusal to address the concerns of the St. George area residents, that precipitated the effort at incorporation. Defending the status quo is just more fuel for the fire.
I agree the EBR System has failed the people of EBR Parish in a lot of ways; however, families are choosing schools based on education and not location.
I know families who transport their kids from U Club to St. Michael, Shenandoah, Ascension Parish to St. Michael, etc.
Then there are kids who travel from Shenandoah to BRHS Magnet or Mickley gifted and talented, etc.
One reason BR traffic so bad is our school traffic.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:45 am to Poodlebrain
quote:What concerns of the SG area residents has the school board failed to address?
I find it just about inconceivable that anyone opposing the incorporation of St. George could resort to an argument based on education. It is the abject failure of the EBR public school system, and its refusal to address the concerns of the St. George area residents
And do you think if SG pulls out that is guaranteed to improve the public education system in Baton Rouge or even in SG?
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 8:46 am
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:29 am to LSURussian
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But just going by population alone is irrelevant. How many people in SG are either older persons who moved to get out of the city or young people just starting out and who don't have children or only have one or two children? (Consider the demographics in SG with the city where households include larger numbers of children per adult.)
I don't know, do we have numbers on that? I know my neighborhood is filled with young families, with lots of kids. What are you implying? St. George is nothing but a bunch of elderly and single people?
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That information was in the article of the Better Together parents meeting who don't want their children to be forced to leave their current school and transfer to a proposed SG school. That alone represents 3 or 4 schools worth of students.
I'm not saying that their information is incorrect, but that is a biased source with an agenda. Did they get their number from an unbiased source? If so i'd like to see the link.
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Add to that the schools which are outside the city limits but not in SG, the special schools which draw from all over the parish and the charter schools which usually have very small class sizes, and your method of dividing the population of BR by the total number of schools in the parish not in SG is filled with errors in logic.
Do these schools service only St. George kids? Again, what schools are these? Not doubting, just want to see the actual schools.
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I have seen nothing in the news that schools currently in the SG proposed district are overcrowded except involving students from the Gardere area who can't attend Lee HS because it is under reconstruction.
Isn't woodlawn pretty overcrowded? I don't have kids there so i do not know. And if overcrowding isn't the issue, then why is the school system so bad?
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I'm annoyed at having to continually explain simple statistical information over and over to people who don't really want to know the facts.
Give me links. I don't like statistics recited to me, because a) the sources could be biased or b) they are could be based solely on opinion.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:30 am to Golfer
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The Baton Rouge metropolitan statistical area (BR Metro) is 810k
Link?
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