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re: Squad strips billion from Israeli defense, cuckpublicans melt

Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
1586 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:10 pm to
I hate everything about the Squad, but why are we paying for this? They should be paying us.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19400 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:13 pm to
And tribal loyalty.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19400 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:18 pm to
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Jews constitute 50% of all donations to Democrats. They also constitute 25% of all donations to the GOP.

They are 2% of the population.


The United States is an oligarchy.

Those figures tell you that a large portion of the Oligarchy is Jewish.

Oligarchies are perhaps the worst form of government. They’re incredibly disconnected from the needs of the people, and the nations they rule. Oligarchies are inevitably selfish. Pursuing the narrow social and financial interest of the elite.

It has a lot to do with class.

They’re drawn from financial elites, the merchant class, they are socially and thus physically disconnected from the poor and the middle class.

But it’s a serious problem when the oligarchs don’t share the values and culture of the people they rule.

If I don’t understand or see myself in the people I command, then I can not rule them effectively, because I can not accurately judge their needs or wants. It’s also much harder to have empathy for people who are “not like me.”

Odds are, I will pursue selfish policies instead that promote my group, at their expense. And ensure my continued dominance.
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 7:33 pm
Posted by Chancellor
BHam
Member since Oct 2017
2224 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:22 pm to
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Lol never thought I would side with AOC, so we should be printing money to underwrite Israel's defense budget?????


That money is getting spent, somewhere.

Personally, I’d rather spend it on helping Israel defend itself from cowards and terrorists who hide behind children than on measuring cow farts and giving to lazy people who won’t work, but, then again, I’m not a dumbass.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19813 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:25 pm to
I'm ok with cutting this as long as all the other ridiculous foreign aid is cut. However, if everything else is staying then put this back in, at least we know it is actually used and not wasted.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23270 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:31 pm to
Stupid

We spend a billion to keep terrorists focused on Israel seems like money well spent if not money saved.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26624 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:33 pm to
OTHER THAN blatant partisanship, why would anyone oppose not funding Israel’s defense when they are more than capable of doing so?

Disclaimer, because it’s needed to have actual conversation on the merits of the issue—AOC is a retard.
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 7:35 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26624 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:34 pm to
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It is important to understand that the Squad supports terrorists as a counterbalance to capitalism. Not because of fiscal sanity (they have none). Nor are they America firsters or even non-interventionists.

So we do not agree with them. Even if we don’t want to fund the Israeli iron dome.



So, your opinion boils down to partisan ping pong. Gr8
Posted by H2P
Member since Jun 2021
1214 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:34 pm to
I think a billion is worth having a single real ally in the region. We give Egypt 1.5 billion a year. Why? So they can threaten Israel?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19400 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:34 pm to
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We spend a billion to keep terrorists focused on Israel seems like money well spent if not money saved.


Al Qaeda and ISIS were never interested in Israel.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111597 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:35 pm to
No. I’m fine with not funding the Israeli defense. It’s not a victory in that the money isn’t going to a better cause.

If my kid in college doesn’t waste $1000 on backstage passes to Bieber but spends it on cocaine instead, it’s nothing worth celebrating.

Good try though, fig.
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 7:36 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19400 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:35 pm to
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We give Egypt 1.5 billion a year. Why? So they can threaten Israel?


It’s the opposite.

It’s a bribe that keeps the peace.

If they went to war, Israel would humiliate them though.
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 7:36 pm
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23270 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:35 pm to
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Al Qaeda and ISIS were never interested in Israel.


They aren't the only terrorists
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26624 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:36 pm to
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think a billion is worth having a single real ally in the region.


Imagine considering Israel an ally. They are literally not an ally, btw.


Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26624 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:37 pm to
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If my kid in college doesn’t waste $1000 on backstage passes to Bieber but spends it on cocaine instead, it’s nothing worth celebrating.

Good try though, fig.




Those aren’t the only two outcomes. I probably don’t support however that money will be reallocated. But that has no bearing whatsoever on the fact that we shouldn’t send it to Israel….
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111597 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:38 pm to
But it’s stupid to pretend it’s going to be well spent.
Posted by Boring
Member since Feb 2019
3792 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:40 pm to
Am I a shortsighted nimrod if I think foreign monetary aid should only be provided in rare/extreme circumstances? At least until we resolve the plethora of issues we have at home.
Posted by H2P
Member since Jun 2021
1214 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:50 pm to
There’s nobody east of France that could possibly be considered an ally until India. And Biden just screwed them both over.

My point was more so stating we pay way more to what I would deem as hostile nations than a defense system in a country that allows us access to air bases.

I don’t think we should preemptively fund (provide arms) to nations that don’t earn it first.
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 8:00 pm
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40459 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:52 pm to
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24190 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:02 pm to
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Personally, I’d rather spend it on helping Israel defend itself from cowards and terrorists who hide behind children than on measuring cow farts and giving to lazy people who won’t work, but, then again, I’m not a dumbass.


It could also be used to improve our decaying infrastructure it other things to make our country better. A billion dollars creates a lot of domestic jobs target than just further the military industrial complex.
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