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re: Speaking of California, this is accurate, correct?

Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:13 am to
Posted by coonasswhodat
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
4112 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:13 am to
About one out of every eight US citizens live in California. That tells me enough right there. California is probably the most desired place to live in the world. Haters gonna hate, no matter what.
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3151 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:15 am to
Mountains, oceans, deserts, forests. Great pay and tons of opportunities. This state truly has it all.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:15 am to
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nia and while the cost of living is quite high, living rent free in your heads makes up for it.
Seriously, there is at least one post a day about California. That shite cracks me up.



Well played.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55494 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:17 am to
Many years ago, I worked for pot farming operations in Willits and Arcata. If Northern California above the Bay became its own state (like the proposed Jefferson with southern Oregon in tow), I'd give great consideration to moving there. Everything else besides the inland isn't really my dig. Too many damn people and too much damn development.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 12:19 am
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6514 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:25 am to
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About one out of every eight US citizens live in California. That tells me enough right there.


1 out of every 4 homeless persons in the US live in California. That tells me enough, too.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8008 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:49 am to
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About one out of every eight US citizens live in California. That tells me enough right there. California is probably the most desired place to live in the world. Haters gonna hate, no matter what.


That’s also a bit deceptive. California has also had the highest net out-migration - by far - within the U.S. over this century. Far higher than even Illinois, New York, Michigan, and the like.

I’m California a lot for work, used to live on the West Coast, and have been up and down and everywhere in between in the state. It’s spectacular in some ways and absolutely horrid in others. That demographer who pegged it as a great place for the very rich, very poor, and government workers (and everyone else can get F’d) had it dead on.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 12:53 am
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:57 am to
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Buckeye_Vol....if you get all your information from Wikipedia you are in trouble, my friend!
I love Wikipedia. I didn't use it for my dissertation or anything, but it's a great resource, and it provides links and citations to research, manuscripts, data, etc. So what's your problem with it?

Regardless, maybe you didn't see the links, but just to appease you, I actually downloaded the most recent data from the Census.

Here is the specific data for California:

US Census Quick Facts: California

Although that appears to be 2018, and I also looked at the poverty data that is up to 2017, and it was 33rd at 15.1% compared to 13.3% in the 2018 data. It mentions something about a different methodology that can't be compared to other regions in the 2018 data, but I don't know if that refers to other states or other types or regions.

Either way, it's not anywhere close to last in poverty. Here is the 2017 data with all states:

POVERTY STATUS IN THE PAST 12 MONTHS: 2013-2017 American Community Survey 5-Year Estimates
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61309 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:00 am to
You misunderstood the OP. The post isn’t about California. It’s about Democrats
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:18 am to
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That’s also a bit deceptive. California has also had the highest net out-migration - by far - within the U.S. over this century. Far higher than even Illinois, New York, Michigan, and the like.
This is for 2017 only, and I the spreadsheet was a pain, bu my calculations, California has the 3rd most TOTAL net migration out behind New York and Illinois; however, as a percentage of it's inward migration it's is 8th behind Illinois, New York, New Jersey, Hawaii, Louisiana, and Wyoming.
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:11 am to
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California is a net contributor to the national coffers


I would fricking hope so considering California was born on third and thinks they hit a home run.

Ports
Military
Farming
Energy
Tourism

Not a single one of those is a result of the citizens nor politicians of the state, they are a direct result of the natural geography and landscape. The only thing California has created on its own is the tech industry, and much of that has moved its corporate offices out of state to avoid the insane taxes.

I love CA as much as the next guy but let's be real, without the socialists in charge they would be the 3rd biggest economy in the world behind US and China and should have zero poverty, zero unemployment.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 5:48 am to
California use to be a great state to live in for the middle class. 60’s, 70’s, and 80’s it was a great place to live. Late 90’s early 2000’s is when I really saw the decline for middle class.

Weather great
Oceans
Mountains
Desert

Politicians are destroying this place for the middle class.
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25471 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 5:50 am to
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California is pretty damn close to perfect. I am actually happy to pay taxes here. I should probably be more active in keeping it great. It’s easy to complacent.


I love California. Have family as far south as San Diego and as far North as Santa Rosa. The issue this board has is based on all the advantages California has just by what it offers geographically, it’s output is abysmal. You have to wake up everyday early, roll up your sleeves, and bust your balls to figure out a way to absolutely shite on productivity and common sense.
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
5704 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 5:58 am to
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About one out of every eight US citizens live in California. That tells me enough right there.
That alone is enough to rank it as my least desirable state.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 7:20 am to
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The recent tax law changes have made significant numbers of Californians and New Yorkers and New Jerseyites pay higher taxes


Good. That's a start but it isn't enough. Stop hoarding your wealth. You didn't build that. Obviously California and New York are disparaging the southern states through their patriarchal white wealth gap. Please stop rubbing our faces in it and just give us more money. You see, if you give us all of your money then we can use it to pay for our programs and then we can pull our own weight using your money. Liberal utopia achieved.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 7:22 am
Posted by Tecate
Member since Nov 2012
1000 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 7:23 am to
Dig deeper. Take a look at the geographically adjusted column.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 7:23 am
Posted by Sayre
Felixville
Member since Nov 2011
5508 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 7:43 am to
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I live in California and while the cost of living is quite high, living rent free in your heads makes up for it. 
Seriously, there is at least one post a day about California. That shite cracks me up.




And they almost all live in America's a-hole, Louisiana. A shite stain of a state that nobody gives a dann about.

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Exactly. I freaking love this board.


You either laugh at the abject stupidity or cry from the unhinged depravity.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 7:46 am
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13496 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 7:48 am to
Wow, using old Wikipedia data from 2016!?

California is in DNC/MSM Political Complex free fall.

2017 Politifact.com
Our ruling

State Assembly Republican Leader Chad Mayes said recently that California has "the highest poverty rate in the nation" when considering the U.S. Census Bureau’s Supplemental Poverty Measure.

Data from that report, and researchers who study poverty, support Mayes’ statement. The state’s 20.6 percent poverty rate is higher than any other, though Florida’s 19 percent rate is close, especially when considering the margin of error.

The supplemental report is considered by experts the best state-by-state measure of poverty, because it takes into account geographic differences in cost-of-living, not just income levels.

In his statement, Mayes cited the specific report that backs his claim, and added the context that another report, one that doesn’t account for cost-of-living, shows California’s poverty closer to the national average.

Given this clarity and context, we rate Mayes' statement True.

TRUE – The statement is accurate and there’s nothing significant missing.

Or how about something even newer, 2018.
The San Diego Union-Tribune
California ranks No. 1 in poverty once again. Take one guess why.
By ABBY HAMBLIN
SEP. 13, 2018 11:59 AM
California was given a first-place title this week that it surely doesn’t want.

It has the highest rate of poverty of any state in the country, according to new data from the U.S. Census Bureau.

As a whole, the U.S. saw its national poverty rate decrease slightly 0.4 percentage points. But the Golden State has its own unique poverty story to tell.

Here’s what you should know.

How does California stack up nationally?
The U.S. Census Bureau measures poverty in two ways every year.

Official poverty measure: The official measure compares all states the same based on income.

Supplemental poverty measure: This measure calculates poverty rates by taking into account the many government programs designed to assist low-income families and individuals that are not included in the official poverty measures. It is this measure that gives us a better idea of what’s going on in a state like California.

By the supplemental poverty measure, California’s estimated poverty rate is 19 percent. While it is a 1.4 percent decrease from the previous year, the rate remains the highest among states. It accounts for about 7.5 million Californians.

The next closest is Florida with 18.1 percent. Louisiana follows at 17.7 percent.
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Louisiana follows at 17.7 percent.

Thanks John Bel Edwards
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71155 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 7:49 am to
They do have the highest child poverty rate according to the Annie Casey Foundation (which is not a right wing propaganda outfit by any stretch of the inagination) .
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
10343 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:19 am to
After spending significant time in California over the years, I would classify the people as strangely naive.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58046 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:26 am to
Who knew that letting millions of uneducated illegals into your state and taxiing and regulating your populace into oblivion would have a negative affect.
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