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re: Something that just occurred to me about the Covid Shot
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:53 am to Wednesday
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:53 am to Wednesday
They already know if you have had the shot or not. It all goes into a data base. Only thing these doctors don't know is if something happened and you didn't go to a doctor or clinic or something.
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:59 am to Wednesday
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And I would like to know why Covid vaccines aren’t recommended by doctors
There is a large majority in the medical field who are opposed to this shot for many reasons. There are also many who are for it. This is nothing new within the medical field. Hints why there are several drugs that treat the same symptoms but might have a different molecular makeup due to one persons body acting one way on a medication vs the the other. Nothing is a one size fits all, and that is what we have here with the gene therapy shot. Thus why the government does not want the decisions in the individual providers hands.
We Americans have the right to ask questions about what goes in our bodes and the government knows this. So sitting one on one with your provider might steer you in the direction of maybe I don't need this shot at this time in my life. Most providers are there to treat your symptoms/illnesses and answer any questions you have medically. They are not there to force drugs upon you.
That apparently is the governments job now.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 9:24 am to Wednesday
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I’ve never understood why we had to go to a fricking Walgreen’s instead of our own doctor to get it. It would seem to make more sense that you would want someone who already knew your medical history discussing with you about whether it was a good idea or not.
IMO, you get the shot and it goes south for you, you can't get remedy from big pharma, they have an out. You can't get remedy from Walgreens, CVS, etc., because you went there in search of the shot, and it was free. But your PCP, he/she knows your personal health conditions, and if they push, push, push the shot, and then there are dire side-effects, where is their protection? Does big pharma's blanket immunity carry over to PCP?
My PCP "offered" the shot. I declined. Response "That's OK, your natural immunity is better anyway".
PCPs have a real tight-rope to walk to keep from getting sued and/or losing their licenses, or access to prescribe the other pharms that big pharms have to offer.
My grave concern is that this CDC "recommended" CV protocol for treatment" at the PCP and HCP level, will ultimately come up negligent and trial lawyers will break the system, leading to nationalized health care.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:44 pm to keks tadpole
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SPOILER ALERT: they can see your vaccination status in your electronic health record.
I have a question for the person that wrote this:
Can you explain to me with some detail, just how this information is in my EMR? I am having a hard time comprehending this.
Using me as an example, I had not been to a doctor since childhood pediatrician up until 4 years ago with PCP.
A VERY VERY LONG SPAN
Those records are nowhere to be found as far as I know. How would those records be available and how would they be in electronic form?
Thanks
Posted on 11/8/21 at 9:20 pm to Wednesday
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the process has been to make a health care decision enforced by government, not recommended by doctors. The government first tried to incentivize by donuts and other dumb stuff. Then, when that didn’t work, they moved on to finding ways to punish you for noncompliance. Now, we’re gently sliding into mandates.
1. The process is recommended by doctors. You won’t find a doctor out there who would recommend someone who isn’t allergic to any of the ingredients or had an adverse reaction to a vaccine to not get a vaccine.
2. The vaccine works. Just because the administration oversold it to the public in an attempt to explain a very complex thing to the public in terms the general public could understand doesn’t mean it doesn’t work.
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I find the entire process troubling. I think that if the genesis of it had been by doctors - you know people who swore an oath to first do no harm; there would have been much less skepticism and a whole lot more acceptance. Further, if the push had been to demonstrate to people how and why it works-instead of “because I say so that’s why,” the Covidians would have run into much less resistance.
The vaccine was pushed by people who have either a profit motive or a power motive. Either way, the interest was not one that good doctors have - which is patient motivated.
You go from asking a legitimate and simple question to a vast conspiracy without stopping to read, process, and understand the answers you are given to that question. You really have jumped the shark and gone full retard on the issue.
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 11/8/21 at 9:24 pm to Wednesday
I went to my primary care for my yearly check up and the nurse asked me. This was before La. Wallet updated to have vax info so I offered to go get my paper card from my car. She said it wasn’t necessary as they could look up the details on the Dept. of Health website 
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:08 pm to dafif
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Can you explain to me with some detail, just how this information is in my EMR? I am having a hard time comprehending this.
Using me as an example, I had not been to a doctor since childhood pediatrician up until 4 years ago with PCP.
A VERY VERY LONG SPAN
Those records are nowhere to be found as far as I know. How would those records be available and how would they be in electronic form?
State health departments have been keeping records of vaccinations for decades. They used to be on paper but have been made digital over the past 5-10 years. Every doctor has an account with those databases and most EMRs have a button/tab which doctors click to link to it. So here is WV if I want to check someone’s vaccination history, I just click on the immunization tab and it takes me to the WIIX website and I just type the patient’s name and birthday. Takes maybe 10-15 seconds if the internet connection is good.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:22 pm to WeeWee
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State health departments have been keeping records of vaccinations for decades.
I tried to find mine in Oh. They may well exist but I'm not going to be able to get them without an act of god.
As for my doctor, he would have to file a request as well. Unless I demanded him to do that, he would not have a reason.
So, they may exist somewhere in the universe but easy to get...nah.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:28 pm to Wednesday
Walgreens is a convenience store peddling meds for big pharma.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:31 pm to WeeWee
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State health departments have been keeping records of vaccinations for decades.
Idk, going to college in the 2000s you had to show proof. They didn’t just look you up in a database.
And btw, those were always recommendations for students living in dorms, not laws. Depending where you were, you still had personal exemption.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 5:50 am to dafif
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I tried to find mine in Oh. They may well exist but I'm not going to be able to get them without an act of god.
As for my doctor, he would have to file a request as well. Unless I demanded him to do that, he would not have a reason.
So, they may exist somewhere in the universe but easy to get...nah.
Literally the 1st link on google and any doctor licensed to practice in Ohio can access it.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 5:56 am to dgnx6
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Idk, going to college in the 2000s you had to show proof. They didn’t just look you up in a database.
Colleges still can’t look you up in a database. Just because the information is in a database doesn’t mean that it’s public information. It’s still protected information and you have to give someone permission to access it.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 10:02 am to WeeWee
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Literally the 1st link on google and any doctor licensed to practice in Ohio can access it.
I looked at that. First, I cannot access it and second, as you say, you must be a doctor in ohio.
I live in florida. You think my doctor is going to stop his practice to go look at vaccinations 50 years ago?
Thanks for proving my point.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 10:08 am to Wednesday
All of my providers ask, and before I was vaccinated they covered all my questions. As well as just yesterday, my pre surgery consult included the question of vaccination, and the dates of my shots.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 10:10 am to WeeWee
Vaccine databases were a mandatory federal requirement, it was covered under the “meaningful use” regulations that started several years ago.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 10:15 am to dafif
A federal mandate, several years ago (2007 or 2008), required all health agencies to expand to electronic medical records. That means, hospitals, clinics, and health departments. All paper records were then required to be converted to electronic.
Your health data, is out there. I’m in the health information industry.
Your health data, is out there. I’m in the health information industry.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:49 pm to lsufan31
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Your health data, is out there. I’m in the health information industry.
I never disputed that the information is out there.
I merely pointed out that the information is not as easy to get as clicking on a website. Frankly wish it was as I have zero clue if/when I received any vax.
No doctor I saw is alive. My point is that I have never been asked (in the last 30 years) about any vaccinations (except covid) and no doctor has shown the least interest in obtaining them.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 8:54 pm to lsufan31
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Your health data, is out there. I’m in the health information industry.
I don't know exactly what y'all are talking about but true to form I'm gonna comment anyway and roll the dice as to whether it's relevant: your health information is out there, yes, but you still have to expressly authorize its dissemination.
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