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re: Someone give just one example of systemic racism, just one
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:25 pm to mindbreaker
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:25 pm to mindbreaker
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so to you targeting black people is not racism
If only the numbers backed up your lies...
If only....
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:25 pm to Steadmans Cheddar
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Why this definition?
True, affirmative action isn't ingrained in law but it sure as shite is systemic racism.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:27 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
I see that you, and most people here don’t understand systemic racism at all. The lack of policy or code doesn’t mean that a system can’t be racist. For systemic racism to exist, it means that the system functions in a way that inherently places a burden on a particular group of people, usually black people in this country.
Some people have thrown out the cocaine vs. crack cocaine as an example, but I’ll use another. Coaching hiring in the NFL is systemically racist unless you believe that blacks are generally less qualified to be head coaches. There’s no rule that exists that says you can’t hire blacks, but that’s clearly how the system works. And the NFL, by adopting and expanding the Rooney Rule, are admitting that their system is racist and that they need to put in measures to combat that.
Some people have thrown out the cocaine vs. crack cocaine as an example, but I’ll use another. Coaching hiring in the NFL is systemically racist unless you believe that blacks are generally less qualified to be head coaches. There’s no rule that exists that says you can’t hire blacks, but that’s clearly how the system works. And the NFL, by adopting and expanding the Rooney Rule, are admitting that their system is racist and that they need to put in measures to combat that.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:29 pm to PKTiger
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Coaching hiring in the NFL is systemically racist unless you believe that blacks are generally less qualified to be head coaches.
Playing and coaching are too entirely different skill sets.
If blacks rightly dominate at cornerback because they are better why is it just absolutely horrible to even consider that whites might be better at coaching?
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:31 pm to gthog61
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affirmative action isn't ingrained in law but it sure as shite is systemic racism.
Amen!
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:35 pm to 632627
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The only one I’m aware of, or was at least aware of a long time ago and may have been since abolished, is discrepancies between crack and cocaine drug charges.
The fallacy in the argument is even comparing crack and powder cocaine. Crack is cheap and gives a quick short lived intense high.
Crack has always had similar sentencing guidelines as meth and only 2% of meth convictions are black, most are white.
Meth now has even worse sentencing guidelines than crack
This is just another false narrative to transfer blame.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:38 pm to Powerman
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If it can be proven that certain groups get more favorable sentences from the court system
Rich people and connected people do
Has nothing to do with race though
See Jussie who got off because the Obamas like him
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:41 pm to PKTiger
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but I’ll use another. Coaching hiring in the NFL is systemically racist unless you believe that blacks are generally less qualified to be head coaches.
Now do the players.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:44 pm to gthog61
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Playing and coaching are too entirely different skill sets.
I never argued that they were.
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If blacks rightly dominate at cornerback because they are better why is it just absolutely horrible to even consider that whites might be better at coaching?
One requires natural, inherent ability and the other is coaching. If you’d legitimately argue that whites are better at coaching, then I’d argue that you’re racist.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:45 pm to Steadmans Cheddar
Libya’s open air slave markets
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:50 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Now do the players.
Please explain how you feel like player hiring is racist.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:52 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:You are thinking of "de jure" racism, which is just one subset of systemic racism.
For it to be systemic, it has to be ingrained in law.
You are correct in observing that de jure racism has been pretty-much eliminated.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:53 pm to PKTiger
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Please explain how you feel like player hiring is racist.
The same way you think coaching hiring is racist.
White people being the best coaches isn't a sign of racism just like black people being the best players isn't a sign of racism. Winning a job based on your merit is what we should be wanting, regardless of color.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:53 pm to AggieHank86
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You are thinking of "de jure" racism, which is just one subset of systemic racism.
If it isn't part of the system, then it isn't systemic.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:55 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
From 1978-2003 the US college and university system practiced racial minimum quota system for admissions
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:56 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:You miss the point.quote:If it isn't part of the system, then it isn't systemic.
You are thinking of "de jure" racism, which is just one subset of systemic racism.
The "system" is a far broader concept than the fifty volumes of the U.S. Code.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:05 pm to imjustafatkid
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The same way you think coaching hiring is racist.
White people being the best coaches isn't a sign of racism just like black people being the best players isn't a sign of racism. Winning a job based on your merit is what we should be wanting, regardless of color.
I don’t know why this is so tough to comprehend. Playing football requires natural skills that cannot be taught. Coaching football does not require any natural skills; anything you need can be taught.
That there are more black players than white players does not mean that racism exists. Please stop with this false equivalency.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:07 pm to PKTiger
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Some people have thrown out the cocaine vs. crack cocaine as an example, but I’ll use another. Coaching hiring in the NFL is systemically racist unless you believe that blacks are generally less qualified to be head coaches. There’s no rule that exists that says you can’t hire blacks, but that’s clearly how the system works. And the NFL, by adopting and expanding the Rooney Rule, are admitting that their system is racist and that they need to put in measures to combat that.
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This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:08 pm to PKTiger
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. Coaching football does not require any natural skills;
This is patently wrong and absurd.
You have never been coach or served under a great leader. They are rare. Otherwise there would be thousands of Lombardi's and thousands of G. Pattons
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:11 pm to mindbreaker
quote:How are blacks being "targeted"? They tend to live in neighborhoods that are crime-ridden, which means there is typically a greater police presence there and the police are on higher alert due to increased activity. That isn't "targeting".
so to you targeting black people is not racism. What's it like in denial land homie?
Are you saying black people are wrongfully searched without any probable cause? If so, what data do you have to support that allegation?
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 1:18 pm
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