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re: Some Americans fear violence after multiple reports of "organized retail theft" (ORT)

Posted on 8/30/23 at 7:03 am to
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26894 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 7:03 am to
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They just raised the level of the divider between misdemeanor and felony to $950. States adjust this figure ALL THE TIME, to reflect inflation.


Did they also create a policy where police offers couldn't try and pursue or detain someone who is stealing less than 950?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294701 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 7:04 am to
It had nothing to do with inflation, it regarded social justice initiatives.

Even you are smart enough to understand this, put down the biases and wishcasting..
This post was edited on 8/30/23 at 7:55 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294701 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 7:07 am to
quote:


Did they also create a policy where police offers couldn't try and pursue or detain someone who is stealing less than 950?

Prop 47 was a social justice initiative to get more black and brown people out of the prisons.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294701 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 7:08 am to
quote:

. States adjust this figure ALL THE TIME, to reflect inflation.


Progressives are so fricking dishonest, or worse...stupid
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
5573 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 8:11 am to
quote:

Did they also create a policy where police offers couldn't try and pursue or detain someone who is stealing less than 950?


He'll get back with you in a few hours on this. It takes time to clip and edit mashups from different Leftist websites to form a word salad response to your direct question. This guy is a recycled Chat GPT clown that uses pivot phrases to gaslight away from the actual subject matter.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17346 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 8:40 am to
There is no question I believe the financials must be adjusted due to inflation. I also believe the punishment should be just as severe as originally intended.

I also believe misdemeanor crimes should provide the perp to be placed in stocks on the courthouse lawn. Citizens can then pay a small fee to throw rotten fruit and vegetables at them. At the end of the day, the perp(s) must clean up the courthouse lawn.

Either sever punishment or humiliation!!
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22876 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 8:44 am to
There is a solution to this problem. It is called Constitutional carry. You don't have to fear violence if you are armed and well-trained in the proper use of your weapon.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
22961 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 8:47 am to
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Hank, once again simping for criminals


At least he isn’t simping for pedophiles, which is what he usually does on this board
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294701 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 8:48 am to
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There is a solution to this problem. It is called Constitutional carry.


I'm fine with the open door of low level criminals and the abdication of community safety by the government as long as the perps can be punished by the citizenry on the spot.

A few dead thieves will send a broader message than a shoplifter in jail.
This post was edited on 8/30/23 at 8:49 am
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17346 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 8:55 am to
What I do not undestand is if this ORT is causing a national retailer that amount of money, why are the retailers not providing additional security to stop it?

Or is it so bad out there economically they need something called ORT to blame it on other than BIDENOMICS!!
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
106894 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 9:00 am to
quote:

I was in San Francisco over Christmas and one of the dinner gatherings I attended


“dinner gathering” must be code for “gay orgy”. Congrats on the sex, I guess.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53328 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 9:05 am to
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assistant US Attorney in San Fran, who described the connection between the organized shoplifting and the Honduran drug cartel th


you assumed that he was telling you the absolute and complete truth. That's your mistake. He was feeding you propaganda.

Second, if they know who the bad guys are, why are they so very weak that they can't get them and solve the problem?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294701 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 9:11 am to
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why are the retailers not providing additional security to stop it?


Because of ambulance chasing lawyers and a gullible population.

I don't mind lax laws, but you can't have lax laws and tie the hands of the victim. There are tradeoffs to everything.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

It had nothing to do with inflation, it regarded social justice initiatives.

Even you are smart enough to understand this, put down the biases and wishcasting.
I suggest that YOU need to take your own advice, Roger.

When Texas raised the threshold between misdemeanor and felony from $20 to $40 more than a century ago, was it the result of "social justice initiatives?

EVERY state periodically adjusts this threshold upward, and they have been doing so since the time of the Revolution.

Have all of these many hundreds of adjustments arise from "social justice initiatives?" If not, when and where did the motivation suddenly change?
This post was edited on 8/30/23 at 12:33 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 12:06 pm to
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Hank, once again simping for criminals.
Just out of curiosity, are you capable of discussing policy and/or politics WITHOUT personal attacks? Or is that just beyond your capacity?

I am genuinely curious, because I cannot recall EVER reading a substantive post from you.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119586 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 12:07 pm to
What are your clients saying?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 12:08 pm to
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If you don’t prosecute a crime it makes that criminal act legal for all intents and purposes. Posting a wall of your Marxist text trying to justify it won’t change that fact.
Where have I supported the non-enforcement policies?

Don't just insist that I've done so at some vague point in the past. Link a post.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85198 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 12:09 pm to
There is really nothing to prevent the same overwhelming organized home invasions other than weaponry. If 30 ghetto rats attack your home and you don't have a gun, what could you possibly do? The same goes for strong arming people in vehicles, at private events, etc. We are reaching a new level of insanity that only dead perps can resolve. We need lots and lots of dead perps.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119586 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 12:11 pm to
Ever consider that none of us believe you are a die hard conservative considering you spend hours of your day defending leftist policies and politicians by virtue of playing silly semantics games and obfuscating?

Or that your story is you “retired” from the law in your 50s which doesn’t happen
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 12:13 pm to
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He loves his legal jargon to try and outsmart people. But the plain simple fact is they raised the limits of theft so the hoodrats can steal more and get away with it.
The upward revision of the threshold in California was enacted in 2010, LONG before the recent spate of organized retail theft (ORT), my Himalayan friend.

More than half of the states have increased the threshold since California did so, yet only a handful of those states have experienced significant ORT. The problem is something unique to those jurisdictions, NOT the routine nationwide adjustment of the thresholds.

To me, it would appear that the "unique" problem is indeed lack of enforcement, which I have said several times ITT.
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