re: Some Americans fear violence after multiple reports of "organized retail theft" (ORT)

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Forty-one states have raised the delineator since 2000. Twenty-nine have done so since 2010.

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I knew you would try to conflate the issue with useless articles that don't tell the whole story. Burglary and theft are misdemeanor/felony thresholds apart and different from shoplifting, the latter is its own class/category. In many states especially Cali, retail shoplifting (NOT burglary/theft as your copy n paste Wikipedia previous post) has to be charged as only shoplifting. So it became a Banana Republic free-for-all in 2020 to present for everyone to commit retail shoplifting under a $950 immunity, knowing they would never go in front of a judge or issued a citation. Nice try though in co-mingling burglary/theft with retail shoplifting. Oh and when you copy n paste directly from Wikipedia, please provide the FULL TEXT. You missed "adjusted for living expenses" lol. Goober leftard.

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Now, a person has to be real careful purchasing products online with so much of the ORT's stolen goods being "re-sold" online.

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You're saying there is a black market?

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Much of it is organized and directed by drug cartels.

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A non-woke, non-corrupt doj and fbi use to go after organized crime.

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Much of it is organized and directed by drug cartels.

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No it's not.

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I agree..any videos you see of this crap is a bunch of hood rats getting their "free stuffs" that they feel entitled to. You can't lay a hand on them because the liberal DA's look the other way..it's racism if you arrest even one of them.

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word salad

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The default response of a poster who does not even understand the issue at hand.

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I'm not conflating jack shite

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So, rather than being confused, you are simply an idiot. Odd argument, but OK, let's go with it.

In 2010 (not 2020), California moved the threshold line between misdemeanor and felony from $400 to $950. That had been the law for DECADE before implementation of the policies about which you are complaining. Enactment of the shoplifting statute in 2014 did not CHANGE that. It created a new type of offense for unrelated reasons, but it simply INCORPORATED the pre-existing $950 delineator.

Adjustment of that figure is a normal, ongoing thing in EVERY state, to align the offenses with inflation. California's change was nothing "progressive" or unique or egregious. To the contrary, even AFTER the change, California treats a theft of (for instance) $1000 MORE seriously than more than half of US states, INCLUDING most deep-red states.

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I schooled you on these 2020 policies and amendments made in Cali regarding a free-for-all retail shoplifting immunity.

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If you consider that bundle of incoherence to be "schooling," it find myself wondering if you have ever actually attended a school. Read Section 459.5. There is no "immunity." Shoplifting is a crime, defined in 2014 (not 2020 as you assert) as follows:

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Shoplifting is entering a commercial establishment with intent to commit larceny while that establishment is open during regular business hours, where the value of the property that is taken or intended to be taken does not exceed nine hundred fifty dollars ($950). ... Shoplifting shall be punished as a misdemeanor.

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Again, your concern seems to arise from the fact that some jurisdictions are not actively pursuing enforcement of Section 159.5. Like you, I see that as bad policy.

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I honestly see right through your bullshite now with your uselss, zero accountability responses to all issues that were created by the Left. This Cali issue is a prime example of you trying to defend an indefensible action by Lord Newsome and your other shithead leaders.

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Yes, I suppose that I AM "defending" the idea of constantly reviewing (and revising as appropriate) the line between misdemeanor and felony, to assure that the theft of a soft drink does not eventually become a felony simply due to inflation.

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Yes, I suppose that I AM "defending" the idea of constantly reviewing (and revising as appropriate) the line between misdemeanor and felony, to assure that the theft of a soft drink does not eventually become a felony simply due to inflation.

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A $1000 soft drink?

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Obviously a bit of hyperbole there

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So now we're crawfishing with hyperbole lol. You truly are a clown Leftist that doesn't know his elbow from his a-hole. Just throwing Leftist shite at a wall to see if it sticks. Take a lap.

All I know is the system we once had for wielding punishment has softened drastically. Thus, the current result!!

If you don’t prosecute a crime it makes that criminal act legal for all intents and purposes. Posting a wall of your Marxist text trying to justify it won’t change that fact.

I honestly don’t feel a bit bad for the national retailers who fire employees if they try to stop a shoplifter. I hope they get robbed blind for punishing good people being brave and doing the right thing. Why would you not steal when there are no repercussions?

And PedoHank is a dumbass.