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Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:07 am to BTROleMisser
Still building as we speak.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:10 am to CitizenK
Nights in winter are usually the coldest.
Solar doesn't work well on moonbeams.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:28 am to Deplorableinohio
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The 1990 Clean Air Act Amendments were passed which required utilities to meet SO2 and NOx requirements. SO2 enabled utilities to fuel switch to low sulfur coal or install scrubbers. Also required installation of low NOx burners or SCRs. All any subsequent president did was through regulation, including our first Kenyan president. “Clean coal” has been around for decades. If a coal fired unit has electrostatic precipitators, SCRs, and scrubbers, it is as clean as it gets. Again, that’s been around for decades.
Low sulfur is coal that previously wasn't desirable. It is from SW Wyoming and why Warren Buffett bought BNSF. It has a very low BTU value. Petroleum Coke is added to it to make it useable as a boiler fuel. This is all thanks to Newtron Gingrich.
What happened to Mississippi's "clean coal" power plant? The process was demolished due huge cost overruns. It wasn't even completed.
As far as Obama, all of the plants he had shutdown were all at or beyond lifespan already except for several lignite plants in Ohio and Texas less than 20 years old. The lifespan of a power plant is historically 40-50 years before maintenance costs to keep them running plus lack of new efficiencies.
The more you know the less ignorant you are.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:38 am to Ailsa
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China has gone “all in” on electric for what that’s worth.
I’m not sure what you mean by this. Electric cars? If you are talking about their grid, it’s obviously 100% electric by definition, but that electricity is mostly being supplied by burning coal. And coal electricity production is being added faster than any other kind, including solar.
Graph of what powers China’s grid
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:48 am to Penrod
I quoted VOR. My response was that china uses coal, not windmills.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:53 am to Ailsa
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My response was that china uses coal, not windmills.
China does use windmills, and increased capacity some over the past year or two, according to our own Dept of Energy's report.
But it's obviously not their main source of power, nor should it be our main source of power either.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:53 am to Ailsa
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I quoted VOR
I see that now.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:54 am to GeauxtigersMs36
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You will never have solar as a primary energy source. You can make coal burners 99 percent clean ( scrubbers during the Obama administration) and natural gas. Just like EVs. Hybrids worked well. Why the push to go completely electric with no infrastructure amazes me.
100 percent accurate
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:56 am to ragincajun03
That's what Trump had claimed.
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 11:01 am
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:59 am to GeauxtigersMs36
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Why the push to go completely electric with no infrastructure amazes me.
In Davos, Elon said it can supply most of our needs and only take a 100 sq mile area in footprint.
Well, that's what he said. Also said China produces the stuff to make it happen.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 11:02 am to CitizenK
Coal is King .
Posted on 1/27/26 at 11:13 am to BTROleMisser
Posted on 1/27/26 at 11:14 am to CitizenK
it did not work at all last night
Posted on 1/27/26 at 11:23 am to Ailsa
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That's what Trump had claimed.
I know he did. I watched it live. I know he likes to speak in exaggerations, but his speech writer probably at least should have checked the administration's own report from earlier this summer before having him say that line...twice. Davos was the second time he used it.
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Natural gas accounted for the largest increase in primary energy production (6.2%) in 2023 from the previous year, followed by nuclear (3.7%). However, natural gas had the second-largest increase in primary energy consumption (7.4%) after petroleum and other liquids (8.6%). Although coal accounted for the largest share of primary energy production, it grew the least year on year, at 1.3%. Coal still accounted for most (62%) of the energy consumed in China (Table 1).
In 2024, non-fossil fuels accounted for 56% of total installed electricity generation capacity. Although most of the electricity generation (63%) came from fossil fuels, fossil fuels share of generation decreased by 1% from the previous year.
China added 356 gigawatts (GW) of non-hydro renewable generation capacity in 2024. Of this, solar accounted for 277 GW, and wind accounted for 79 GW.5
LINK
So yes, China does produce and consume some wind energy, though fossil fuels are still far and away the largest percentage of its production and consumption. "Renewables", like wind and solar, have recently grown as a percentage more than fossil fuels in China, but that growth is still dwarfed by coal, oil & gas.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 11:29 am to CitizenK
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Wind did well, solar not so much.
All intermittent renewables are waiting for the next big leap in battery tech. Until that leap happens, they are incapable of being the primary source of power; once that happens, they will be the obvious choice as the primary source of power. The dickering by both ardent proponents and opponents in the interim is nothing more than mental masturbation and corporate shilling.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:07 pm to CitizenK
I will take a guess that the solar panels were covered with ice. That has to make them extremely inefficient?
Posted on 1/27/26 at 4:22 pm to CitizenK
We switched from bituminous coal at 12,000 Btu/lbm versus 8,000 Btu/lbm Powder River Basin low sulfur coal. No petroleum coke was ever added.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 4:30 pm to Deplorableinohio
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We switched from bituminous coal at 12,000 Btu/lbm versus 8,000 Btu/lbm Powder River Basin low sulfur coal. No petroleum coke was ever added.
Maybe not where you are but many did. Citgo Lake Charles shipped a lot via rail and barge. With its coker feedstock hydrotreater, it is all but sulfur free and very high quality fuel grade petcoke.
FWIW, petcoke was a saleable nuisance byproduct of squeezing the last drop of gasoline and diesel out of a barrel of oil. In the early 1980's a German steel and trading company developed a market for it in Europe to replace coal in steel and cement kilns. The price rose dramatically. The price rose again when the Newtron legislation was passed to supplement BTUs of Powder River Basin coal. Thus over a 15 year period it went from something like $10 per ton to $hundreds per ton.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 4:46 pm to CitizenK
FTR, it was not about renewable energy for wind/solar.
Entergy fought Agrilectric rice hull fueled boilers since built in the 1980's.
In 2022, we could not get a connection, thanks to Entergy, to relocate a wood fueled power plant from CA to Baton Rouge. It would have saved the EBRP its $35 per ton cost to landfill tree limbs by them being shredded at burned in the boiler to make 12 MW of power. The annual collection along with the tree service companies is a little over the 175,000 tons required to fuel it annually.
Entergy fought Agrilectric rice hull fueled boilers since built in the 1980's.
In 2022, we could not get a connection, thanks to Entergy, to relocate a wood fueled power plant from CA to Baton Rouge. It would have saved the EBRP its $35 per ton cost to landfill tree limbs by them being shredded at burned in the boiler to make 12 MW of power. The annual collection along with the tree service companies is a little over the 175,000 tons required to fuel it annually.
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