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Social Security recipients to receive 3/4 payouts by 2035

Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:26 am
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:26 am
I heard this on the Wall Street Radio program this morning, that if nothing is changed, SS recipients would only reiceve 3/4 of their benifits by 2035.
Do you believe this will happen, or some other solution will be offered?
Posted by 337Tiger19
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:27 am to
Is this not socialism?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58049 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:29 am to
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Is this not socialism?



The idea of SS is socialistic in nature, but Americans aren't given a choice as to whether the monies are removed from their checks.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:30 am to
Here's a puzzler for our Marxist countrymen: if you're so concerned about giving the wealthy financial breaks, why is there a salary ceiling on social security contributions, and why do Democratic congressmen never say anything about it?

This year the limit is $132,900. Anything earned over that is not subject to SS contributions.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 8:36 am
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:30 am to
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but Americans aren't given a choice as to whether the monies are removed from their checks.

Sounds VERY socialist
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57708 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:31 am to
frick that shite. If I’m paying in fully my entire career, they better pull that money from somewhere else. That’s money I earned and contributed.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29328 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:31 am to
glad to know the $150,000 or so I will have put in up until that time will be waiting for me down the road for my retirement...

oh wait...

we've got Congressmen worried about cow farts than shite that actually matters
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:32 am to
Not socialism, but bad investment planning. If I get it I get it. Not really my retirement investment strategy, though.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
14985 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:32 am to
All of the politicians and all of their families who voted to rob Social Security should have to pay reparations to the Social Security recipients and their families.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4590 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:35 am to
More like a Ponzi scheme. Literally fits the definition, but everyone is forced to contribute.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:35 am to
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why is there a salary ceiling on social security contributions, and why do Democratic congressmen never say anything about it?


Be careful with this - they'll lift the cap on wages, but enforce a cap on benefits. That's even more Marxism.

And the "rich" still won't pay more because they don't rely on ordinary income (like the middle class do, even the upper middle class). So, this will be yet another tax on the middle class for which they will receive a negative return.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58049 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:37 am to
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Not socialism, but bad investment planning.


Well the government doesn't allow citizens to opt out of the system and privately invest the money taken by SS.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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89552 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:38 am to
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glad to know the $150,000 or so I will have put in


You haven't put anything "in" - those are insurance premiums. I'm sorry it was sold to you with misleading language, but it is what it is.

It is an insurance program from top to bottom. It is NOT a retirement plan or an investment program. It is just wholly unfortunate that folks think of it that way and even plan for retirement that way.

And, yes, it is a mandatory insurance program (like Obamacare) that is enforced by the government at the figurative point of a gun.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19532 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:38 am to
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Be careful with this - they'll lift the cap on wages, but enforce a cap on benefits. That's even more Marxism.


Oh, I understand that we'll always be screwed by Marxism. It just seems weird to me with all the class warfare nonsense they spew that SS contributions are seemingly never brought up.
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:39 am to
Another shining example that if you give the government money for "X" they will damn sure find a way to spend it on "Y Z 1 2 and 3"...and when it comes time to pay for "X", well then they need just a little bit more.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35408 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:40 am to
quote:

I heard this on the Wall Street Radio program this morning, that if nothing is changed, SS recipients would only reiceve 3/4 of their benifits by 2035.
Do you believe this will happen, or some other solution will be offered?
I doubt it. The number of people joining the workforce now will form a "boomer" generation, greatly outnumbering the aging class by that time. SS rates may even come down a bit.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48983 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:40 am to
quote:

Is this not socialism?


No because it's my money coming back to me in a sense
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89552 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:43 am to
quote:

It just seems weird to me with all the class warfare nonsense they spew that SS contributions are seemingly never brought up.


Well, "they" (the left) tend to argue that it is regressive (the tax falls on the lower portion of the income, starting with dollar number 1 of every paycheck), but then never argue it is a bad deal.

Frankly, the benefits fall disproportionately on the working poor and lower middle class who have statistically $0 in other retirement savings, so, frankly, it's better to have SS retirement than to not have it.

But, the boomers have really gotten over on the younger generations with this one. They were putting in $80, $100 a year in the 1960s and are pulling $20k, $25k a year in their 60s and live 20 to 30 years in retirement. From Gen-X on, our ROI isn't going to even be positive, much less that lucrative.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 8:43 am
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6851 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:44 am to
Just over 10 years to go before I would be eligible to collect SS, I have never expected there will anything there, after paying in for over 5O years I do not expect to be disappointed when they tell me the coffers are empty.


He who expects nothing.....is seldom disappointed.
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:47 am to
quote:

SS rates may even come down a bit.



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