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re: So, turns out Russia doesn't have any diesel to export. The deal was done to bring peace?
Posted on 10/19/26 at 3:25 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Posted on 10/19/26 at 3:25 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Guess that tanker headed over here isn't real either.
Posted on 10/19/26 at 3:27 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Then why did President Trump’s October 9 announcement of the "deal" state that Russia would release over 300,000 tons IMMEDIATELY???
He thought the announcement would reduce diesel prices the same way that the 37 different "peace deal" with Iran announcements juiced the stock market
Posted on 10/19/26 at 3:29 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Was Secretary Wright lying?
No. He was pretty clear.
You on the other hand.....
Posted on 10/19/26 at 3:29 pm to Green Chili Tiger
The announcement of the deal made sure to include the following caveat:
…depending on the condition of their Diesel Refineries.
…depending on the condition of their Diesel Refineries.
Posted on 10/19/26 at 3:35 pm to captainFid
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Guess that tanker headed over here isn't real either.
Which one?
There is a federal that prohibits importation of Russian energy into the US until the President certifies that Russia has left Ukraine. The sanctions can be lifted by the Treasury, but the law prohibiting importation into the US is still in place.
There was reports of a Russian ship docking in North Carolina with fertilizer...haven't heard anything about a tanker with diesel.
Posted on 10/19/26 at 3:36 pm to captainFid
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Guess that tanker headed over here isn't real either.
Is it?
Posted on 10/19/26 at 3:36 pm to AGGIES
They were moving hundreds of thousands of metric tons of ultra low sulfur diesel through the Baltic sea every month before the war. Ukraine has hammered their refineries with drone attacks.
Hence, the "end the war and we'll buy your diesel" proposition. Its not complicated, but libs look for any reason to clutch pearls.
Hence, the "end the war and we'll buy your diesel" proposition. Its not complicated, but libs look for any reason to clutch pearls.
Posted on 10/19/26 at 3:38 pm to AGGIES
What Bill is saying is true. Wright said that Russia doesn't currently have diesel to export.
This is also true, and he mentioned it in the interview.
So, Trump saying that Russia has that much diesel ready to export was not true.
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…depending on the condition of their Diesel Refineries.
This is also true, and he mentioned it in the interview.
So, Trump saying that Russia has that much diesel ready to export was not true.
Posted on 10/19/26 at 3:38 pm to Vacherie Saint
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They were moving hundreds of thousands of metric tons of ultra low sulfur diesel through the Baltic sea every month before the war.
Sounds like invading Ukraine was a huge mistake.
Posted on 10/19/26 at 3:39 pm to IvoryBillMatt
quote:He said "Russia exports, today, zero diesel." That is a word for word quote. McFaul twisted the statement into "If Russia has no diesel to sell..."
He said that Russia does NOT have any diesel to export.
You read McFaul's bullshite, and attributed it to Wright. McFaul got you.
Posted on 10/19/26 at 3:40 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Maybe so, but would you like to address the dishonest framing of the OP clickbait tweet or just mindlessly bitch about Trump?
Posted on 10/19/26 at 3:41 pm to LegendInMyMind
Language was carefully selected for a reason… it’s the fine print.
Posted on 10/19/26 at 3:46 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Trump saying that Russia has that much diesel ready to export was not true.
I wouldn't say that. 800k tons over the next few months sounds like a lot, but its not. It would be manageable for them under the current infrastructure.
Posted on 10/19/26 at 3:46 pm to NC_Tigah
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He said "Russia exports, today, zero diesel." That is a word for word quote. McFaul twisted the statement into "If Russia has no diesel to sell..."
You read McFaul's bullshite, and attributed it to Wright. McFaul got you.
No I didn't. Wright said the Russians will have diesel to export ONLY if they "reduce the conflict with Ukraine." Wright is pitching this as a peace incentive.
Posted on 10/19/26 at 3:50 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:Negative. He was dodging Martha Raddatz's pathetic gotcha swipe.
Wright said that Russia doesn't currently have diesel to export.
.... OMG OMG OMG OMG this will help Russssssia OMG OMG OMG OMG
Russia's capacity for diesel production FAR exceeds its internal utilization. They have significant storage depots to support their war effort. They could quite easily sell from those as they ramp production back up. Technically, the depots would come from internal supply.
Posted on 10/19/26 at 3:56 pm to IvoryBillMatt
quote:IT IS A WORD FOR WORD QUOTE!
No I didn't
The rest was contingent 100% on the US eliminating sanctions on Russian diesel, and .... sorry Martha .... telling Ukraine to knock off the refinery targeting.
Posted on 10/19/26 at 4:02 pm to NC_Tigah
Not many superpowers import refined petroleum products for obvious reasons (many not so obvious for the resident never-Trump loons). China is an example of this. Most Russian oil exports go there but zero diesel because they have excess refining capacity. Russia typically sells this stuff to countries like Turkey and Brazil which were part of the ban - hence the zero diesel currently being exported.
Sadly for the US, we don't build refineries anymore and do not have the excess capacity to refine additional diesel here.
Sadly for the US, we don't build refineries anymore and do not have the excess capacity to refine additional diesel here.
Posted on 10/19/26 at 4:38 pm to NC_Tigah
Here's Burgum saying the exact same thing as Wright. The Russians don't currently have diesel to export. The deal is to give them incentive to export diesel IN THE FUTURE.
The President's lies (Oct. 9, "Russia will IMMEDIATELY!") are running out of steam to keep prices down.
The President's lies (Oct. 9, "Russia will IMMEDIATELY!") are running out of steam to keep prices down.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 10/19/26 at 4:50 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:
. He was pretty clear.
You on the other hand....
Right. So, how am I lying?
Posted on 10/19/26 at 5:06 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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He thought the announcement would reduce diesel prices the same way that the 37 different "peace deal" with Iran announcements juiced the stock market
Yup. That's why I think the lies are going to have a harder time moving the markets in the future.
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