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re: So The Same "God" That Allows Pedophiles To Run Rampant In His Churches Is Going To Assist
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:56 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:56 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Why are you posting such ignorant garbage? You used to be somewhat reasonable. Please take another mental health break.
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Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:57 pm to AcadieAnne
Just answer the question.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:57 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
God will judge in his time
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:16 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Ok. What is more logical: everything came from nothing, randomly, for no reason (which our current scientific understanding does not support), or that their is a Being beyond our reason that ordered the universe as we know it? I logically believe the latter to be true,
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:22 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
quote:so edgy
EZE Tiger Fan
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:26 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:44 pm to AcadieAnne
I promise, it’s not worth arguing. There’s a batch of 3-5 atheist posters who drop into every religion thread and every time it’s the same thing. No amount of arguing with them will ever get them to change their opinions and they seemingly get a joy out of being snarky. They’ve been doing it for years. You’re wasting your metaphorical breath.
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 2/28/25 at 10:08 pm to AcadieAnne
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Ok. What is more logical: everything came from nothing, randomly, for no reason (which our current scientific understanding does not support), or that their is a Being beyond our reason that ordered the universe as we know it?
Science and knowledge have been erasing bogus religious claims for thousands of years, and you think that because we don't know all the answers, your fairy tales must be true. That isn't logic.
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I logically believe the latter to be true,
You believe it, sure. That doesn't make it logical.
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 2/28/25 at 10:14 pm to JiminyCricket
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I promise, it’s not worth arguing.
It really isn't.
At the end of the day and without fail, you're left with "trust me, bro."
Every. Single. Time.
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No amount of arguing with them will ever get them to change their opinions
...and I suppose you'd claim that you're open to changing yours?
The difference between you and I is that if your position wasn't bullshite, it'd be very easy to prove and I'd be on board.
There's nothing anyone can say to change your mind because religion was created to control, not to enlighten.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 10:23 pm to MemphisGuy
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Um... that's your takeaway? If so, you are intentionally being obtuse.
Can't make chicken salad with chicken crap. Post better takes.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 10:25 pm to AcadieAnne
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No. I schooled you on trannies
Odds are you're confusing me with another poster.
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Do not test me.
Or what? The shite you spout will become even more stupid?
Posted on 2/28/25 at 10:28 pm to AcadieAnne
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What is more logical: everything came from nothing, randomly, for no reason (which our current scientific understanding does not support)
Let's go through this one thing at a time. Why are you assuming that "nothing" is the default state of existence and "something" requires an explanation?
Posted on 2/28/25 at 10:31 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Science and knowledge have been erasing bogus religious claims for thousands of years, and you think that because we don't know all the answers, your fairly tales must be true. That isn't logic.
You can not be serious. “Science doesn’t know now, but it will someday, trust me bro!” is just as much a religion as Christianity. Except Christianity teaches people to love their neighbors as themselves. I’ll take that every day of the week ending in “y” over the atheist religion that teaches that people aren’t accountable for their actions because we’re all just a random chemical soup. No thank you. That’s stupid and anti-social.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 10:39 pm to AcadieAnne
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“Science doesn’t know now, but it will someday, trust me bro!” is just as much a religion as Christianity.
This is idiotic, and not at all the claim I made.
Science has proven claims made by religion false. Repeatedly. That isn't even a controversial statement.
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Except Christianity teaches people to love their neighbors as themselves.
So do other religions. So did Egyptians thousands of years before Christianity was around. So does Santa.
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atheist religion
You so desperately want this to be a thing.
It isn't.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 10:55 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Displaced, you can certainly continue to try to engage with me. You can insult me, insult my positions, downvote me, call me all sorts of names till your heart is content. I’m simply not going to argue with you. As I said multiple times in this thread when you continued to address me directly, have a good evening, best of luck to you.
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:00 pm to JiminyCricket
Your reply wasn't necessary. At all.
Honestly, it's much easier if you don't bother trying to argue. It'd be a waste of time for both of us.
Regardless, I'm going to reply when I see something to reply to.
Honestly, it's much easier if you don't bother trying to argue. It'd be a waste of time for both of us.
Regardless, I'm going to reply when I see something to reply to.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:10 pm to AcadieAnne
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You can not be serious. “Science doesn’t know now, but it will someday, trust me bro!” is just as much a religion as Christianity. Except Christianity teaches people to love their neighbors as themselves. I’ll take that every day of the week ending in “y” over the atheist religion that teaches that people aren’t accountable for their actions because we’re all just a random chemical soup. No thank you. That’s stupid and anti-social.
The cornerstone of Christianity though is that something has already happened. If the resurrection didn’t occur, then as Paul says, we are the most foolish of fools.
If the resurrection did in fact occur, we can be assured of the things to come because of evidence we’ve already seen that what the God of the Bible says to be true does indeed have merit.
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:15 pm to Azkiger
quote:If you are going to critique God according to the framework He has laid out, then you have to do so consistently within that framework, not selectively.
Agreed
But if you assert an objective moral standard, I'm allowed to show how it is inconsistent with the world around us (the problem of evil).
You don't get to assert a thing, then not allow me to reference that thing while I'm trying to critique said thing. I know you would like to do that because it makes things easier on you. But reality is rarely easy.
If you want to condemn God as immoral, you have to show how He is immoral from the whole teachings of the Bible. For instance, if God is holy as the Bible teaches that He is, and if we are sinful as the Bible teaches that we are, and it is true that even one sin against an eternal and holy God deserves divine wrath and justice as the Bible teaches, then it is consistent with God’s holiness and justice to punish sinners in Hell for eternity, and such is morally good rather than evil.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:27 pm to FooManChoo
It just funnels back to the morality question. If there is not an objective giver of morality, how do humans determine what morality is? If human reason is the determining factor of morality, who is correct when two humans, who theoretically have equal right to determine morality do not align on an issue?
Furthermore, if two humans disagree on a moral issue, who could possibly judge the issue at hand to determine who is correct? Wouldn’t the judge simply be a third human in the equation, giving their opinion of who is correct from a moral perspective?
Furthermore, if two humans disagree on a moral issue, who could possibly judge the issue at hand to determine who is correct? Wouldn’t the judge simply be a third human in the equation, giving their opinion of who is correct from a moral perspective?
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:31 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
I’ve agreed and disagreed with you on my years here on TD, and you’re one of the last people I would have expected to be so intellectually dishonest. You’re trying to gaslight me by saying you didn’t say what you said, and I’m not into that.
Good luck to you, my brother in Christ, and I hope to one day have a good faith conversation whenever you work out whatever it is you’re going through.
Good luck to you, my brother in Christ, and I hope to one day have a good faith conversation whenever you work out whatever it is you’re going through.
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