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re: So The Same "God" That Allows Pedophiles To Run Rampant In His Churches Is Going To Assist
Posted on 2/28/25 at 7:31 am to Azkiger
Posted on 2/28/25 at 7:31 am to Azkiger
quote:Yes, as well as many other things, such as He will have vengeance on those who perform evil.
Is that what he tells kids getting raped?
The problem of evil is only answerable in a worldview with an objective standard of morality to be able to identify what evil is and to know that it will be dealt with by the judge of the world.
Remove God from the equation and there is neither evil nor justice for it. Morality would be entirely subjective and lack any force of “ought”, because there would only be what is, not what should be; only preference and opinion. There would also be a lack of justice against such “evil” in many if not most cases. Most of the time evil goes unpunished in this life. Without God as judge, that lack of justice would be final.
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Posted on 2/28/25 at 7:41 am to Stinger_1066
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It seems that OP's message was lost on most of ya'll.
Very much so.
It is going to take someone, anyone, doing the right thing. Not any "god".
NO ONE is going to do this, apparently.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 7:43 am to FnTigers
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Enjoy hell, heathen.
Party time. Endless hookers and blow.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 7:49 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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She says as she tries to make this random thread about her.
Seriously, she's a parody at this point. I can't help but laugh at the lack of self awareness.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:08 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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The sooner you accept that nothing will happen, the happier you will be.
You sure? You sound pretty miserable.
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None of these criminals/pedophiles will answer to anyone, especially any "god". If there is one, he sure does a shitty job of protecting innocent kids.
Sad thing is, diddling and trafficking innocent children is just the tip of the iceberg of what these people get away with and will continue to get away with.
You're right. I can't hold in my happiness now.
You nailed it.
If there is no God, no judgement day, and no hell, there is no ultimate justice for almost every human being who has ever lived.
(There's actually no such thing as 'justice' or 'evil,' but that's probably a bridge too far to discuss with this poster).
Wow. What a freeing, liberating concept.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:14 am to FooManChoo
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The problem of evil is only answerable in a worldview with an objective standard of morality to be able to identify what evil is and to know that it will be dealt with by the judge of the world.
No.
For the sake of argument i can just borrow your version and show how it's incompatable with the real world.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:17 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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There is no hell.
says the gay marriage loving clown who thinks this did not open a can or worms we see today
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:28 am to Fat Bastard
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says the gay marriage loving clown who thinks this did not open a can or worms we see today
I will always support gay marriage. I will never support the other items listed.
I wish LATiger was still here. 10 plus years later and everything he predicted came true in terms of progressives perverting everything from gay marriage to the church.
Between LATiger and about another 10-15 gay friends I have that ALL voted for Trump, my stance on that issue will be what it was well before the likes of Obama or Clinton supported it. I will never be ashamed of that.
As for the other replies, yes, it is liberating. So then you have to ask yourself, IF there is a god, which version is the correct one?
Either way, it is still up to MAN to ultimately put a stop to these things. What MAN is going to step up and do it?
Posted on 2/28/25 at 10:35 am to Azkiger
quote:You might not be emotionally satisfied with the answer that Christianity provides for the problem of evil--that God allows it for an even greater purpose--but logically speaking, there is only a "problem of evil" if there is an objective standard for what evil actually is.
No.
For the sake of argument i can just borrow your version and show how it's incompatable with the real world.
Atheism cannot account for the existence of true evil and can only say that what happens, happens, and that morality is entirely subjective, so the atheist doesn't have a rational basis to condemn evil as evil because there is no objective standard in his worldview.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 10:38 am to BayouBlitz
quote:Endless torment, not a party.quote:Party time. Endless hookers and blow.
Enjoy hell, heathen.
They say that misery loves company, but when your misery is so excruciating, you can't take any sort of solace in the fact that others are experiencing it, too.
Imagine being burned alive for a second. Would it matter to you if there was some stranger being burned next to you while you're experiencing the pain of the flames devouring your body?
Posted on 2/28/25 at 10:40 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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There is no hell. I'll be fine. TYVM
For the sake of discussion, what if you are wrong? What do you think your thoughts will be in that moment?
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 10:42 am
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:04 am to Roll Tide Ravens
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For the sake of discussion, what if you are wrong? What do you think your thoughts will be in that moment?
Well if I'm sent to hell for the life I've lived, then it is beyond fricked up.
I work, raise my kids as a single father, I do right by others, I've never been to jail, never killed anyone, and I certainly never fricked any kids. If my body of work is one that is sent to hell, then everyone else on this board is going there too.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:11 am to EZE Tiger Fan
You may look down your nose to us that have believed is Christ but if you die in your unbelief, you’ll regret that hard heart of yours for eternity. I used to be like you…but God… opened my eyes to Him and save me. Amazing grace!! I yearn for you to know Him and His grace.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:11 am to EZE Tiger Fan
Everyone posting on the board is a sinner, there is only one route to be saved from damnation.
The path is detailed for us, it is up to us to follow it or not.
We can live a life that seems "good" or "just" to us and others, but these [img]people[/img] are not the ultimate judge.
The path is detailed for us, it is up to us to follow it or not.
We can live a life that seems "good" or "just" to us and others, but these [img]people[/img] are not the ultimate judge.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:13 am to EZE Tiger Fan
God isn't a puppeteer who controls people only people who say that didn't catch the whole "free will" part of the Bible.
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 11:15 am
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:14 am to EZE Tiger Fan
Posted on 2/28/25 at 1:52 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
quote:It seems like your standard for being a good person (and therefore your worthiness of eternal life vs. eternal damnation) is how you've lived compared to others, particularly those who seem to be obviously "bad" people.
Well if I'm sent to hell for the life I've lived, then it is beyond fricked up.
I work, raise my kids as a single father, I do right by others, I've never been to jail, never killed anyone, and I certainly never fricked any kids. If my body of work is one that is sent to hell, then everyone else on this board is going there too.
If so, that's not the standard God judges by. God judges goodness according to His perfect, holy standard, which reflects His very own character. In essence, He compares us to Himself, not to each other.
When we compare our words, thoughts, and actions to those of God, we do not measure up at all. It's precisely why Christianity is different from all other religions in that the Bible doesn't teach that man can save himself and earn salvation by his own good works, but that Jesus, the Son of God, became a man to obey the requirements of God's law in our place so that our sins are counted to Him and His righteousness is counted to us so that we can be acceptable to God through Jesus.
If you or anyone else trusts in your own "good" works for any credit before God, you're denying what He did for us. That denial is not good at all. It's actually a rejection of the mercy of God, which is held out to us in spite of our sins against our holy creator.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 1:55 pm to AcadieAnne
What a weird thing to be euphoric about.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 2:55 pm to FooManChoo
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but logically speaking, there is only a "problem of evil" if there is an objective standard for what evil actually is.
Correct. This problem arises when you try and use a perfect god as an explanation.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 2:56 pm to Kid Ray
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God grants us free will.
No, he doesn't
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