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re: So snake island was a hoax too

Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:19 am to
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:19 am to
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The false martyrdom from western media. That's pretty hoax-ish.


I mean, the island was heavily bombarded. And we are not privy to Russian prisoner information, so it’s not exactly a “hoax” to presume the men were killed.

There is even a category the US uses for our own casualties where a body was unable to be recovered: “presumed Killed In Action.”
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44190 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:24 am to
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If nobody died, then I would call that a hoax.


I guess we will find out later (or...not).
Posted by DarthTiger
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:26 am to
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This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 3:10 pm
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:27 am to
Who the hell are you quoting? It says by me, but I didn’t type that.

What I would call a “hoax” is maybe if the island was never bombarded to begin with.

As of right now, it’s more like a story where the casualties were PKIA but now we know they may be POW. That’s more of an update than an admission of fabrication.
This post was edited on 2/28/22 at 8:28 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44190 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:28 am to
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Who the hell are you quoting.


I was quoting an icon of TD.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:29 am to
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That’s more of an update than an admission of fabrication.


You’re one of those guys who watches commercials to find out how many dentists are recommending the gum.

It’s 9 out of 10.
Posted by Jax Teller
Member since Aug 2018
4662 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:29 am to
Yep. And Zelensky would have called them out as heroes like he did for the one that blew up the bridge by himself.

That story never smelled right.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44190 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:30 am to
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As of right now, it’s more like a story where the casualties were PKIA but now we know they may be POW. That’s more of an update than an admission of fabrication.


You sure are worked up over this.

quote:

What I would call a “hoax” is maybe if the island was never bombarded to begin with.


We have differing “definitions,” - aka...opinions.
This post was edited on 2/28/22 at 8:32 am
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23178 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:31 am to
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Yeah, but what makes it a “hoax.” The attack happened. The Russians confirmed it. All we have learned in the last few hours is that a few may have been taken as POWs.



The distinction between people dying and not dying has always been important in just about any context.
Posted by 62Tigerfan
Member since Sep 2015
5379 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:31 am to
The first casualty of war is the truth. It has been that way since man crawled out of the slime.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4607 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:32 am to
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presumed Killed In Action
But the characterization of "presumed" was heard not once. Every repot that I saw was basically a eulogy.

CNN has been decent about admitting not being able to verify certain claims, but not in this case.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:34 am to
Apparently there were zero casualties.

The Russians detained 82 men.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:35 am to
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The distinction between people dying and not dying has always been important in just about any context.


Yeah, and war is hell and we don’t always have the best figures. Sometimes they get *updated* as information makes it way across the battle lines. Again this is where the PKIA comes into play. We don’t have the bodies but judging by the assault, it is reasonable to presume that they were killed.

Now that information has made its way to the non-Russian side from behind Russian lines, we can more properly assess that they were POWs.

That’s a long ways from a wholesale fabrication of a story from what you would expect when you call it a “hoax.”
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:37 am to
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16879 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:40 am to
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Tie-fighter

Quoted by Darthtiger

Checks out
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21504 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:40 am to
What was the hoax? The comments or that everyone was killed? If everyone was killed, I don't have problem with spreading the "hoax" comments.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:40 am to
I was wondering why there were troops there to begin with
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
166996 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:44 am to
yes.
Posted by Hoodie
Donaldsonville, LA
Member since Dec 2019
3713 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:44 am to
Something I found odd about the Snake Island incident from the jump was that an exchange between a Russian and a Ukrainian was spoken in English, as in a movie made for American consumption.
Posted by Gcockboi
Rock Hill
Member since Oct 2012
7689 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:52 am to
No shite. A lot of us tried to tell you gullible idiots days ago. Everything Ukraine is putting out is fake.
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