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re: So many of you claim to be smart but deny climate change
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:50 pm to texag7
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:50 pm to texag7
quote:What would be sound statistics? Plotting it out in Kelvin from absolute zero so the difference between the last glacial maximum and the Eemian thermal maximum is a couple of pixels?
Using a Y range of only around 1 unit to make a plotted line look scary is not sound statistics.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 2:50 pm
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:51 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:You mean the stuff that's currently being falsified?
Look up nutrition research.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:51 pm to Iosh
Plot the actual temps in Celsius over the recorded period....
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:53 pm to texag7
quote:That's what you're looking at? Each of the four colored lines is a temperature dataset and the grey is the 95% confidence interval for the models.
Plot the actual temps in Celcius
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:55 pm to Iosh
I'm talking about the Y-axis. Use the actual temps as a scale.
Of course that would make the line look not scary so it can't be used.
Of course that would make the line look not scary so it can't be used.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:02 pm to troyt37
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:02 pm to Dawgsontop34
quote:
Is it ok for me to believe that a fetus with a beating heart is absolutely a human, but to also believe climate change is real?
Absolutely.
But you are in the minority and the majority has a much louder voice.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:04 pm to bonhoeffer45
quote:
bonhoeffer45
quote:
Get back to me when Randall structures his charges into a peer reviewable format and submits ti to a scientific journal.
LINK
quote:
PUBLICATIONS ABOUT THE YOUNGER DRYAS IMPACT EVENT
The following is a selection of the many scientific publications relating to our work at the Comet Research Group. We have included both publications in support of our central hypothesis, as well as publications in disagreement.
quote:
Featured publications from the National Academy of Sciences
Multiple articles at this site. Below is one:
quote:
Evidence for an extraterrestrial impact 12,900 years
ago that contributed to the megafaunal extinctions
and the Younger Dryas cooling
R. B. Firestonea,b, A. Westc, J. P. Kennettd, L. Beckere, T. E. Bunchf, Z. S. Revayg, P. H. Schultzh, T. Belgyag, D. J. Kennetti, J. M. Erlandsoni, O. J. Dickensonj, A. C. Goodyeark, R. S. Harrish, G. A. Howardl, J. B. Kloostermanm, P. Lechlern,
P. A. Mayewskio, J. Montgomeryj, R. Poredap, T. Darrahp, S. S. Que Heeq, A. R. Smitha, A. Stichr, W. Toppings,
J. H. Wittkef, and W. S. Wolbachr
aLawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, Berkeley, CA 94720; cGeoScience Consulting, Dewey, AZ 86327; dDepartment of Earth Sciences and eInstitute of Crustal Studies, University of California, Santa Barbara, CA 93106; fNorthern Arizona University, Flagstaff, AZ 86011; gInstitute for Isotope and Surface Chemistry, H-1525, Budapest, Hungary; hDepartment of Geological Sciences, Brown University, Providence, RI 02912; iDepartment of Anthropology and Museum of Natural and Cultural History, University of Oregon, Eugene, OR 97403; jEastern New Mexico University, Portales, NM 88130; kSouth Carolina Institute of Archaeology and Anthropology, University of South Carolina, Columbia, SC 29208; lRestoration Systems, LLC, Raleigh, NC 27604; mRozenstraat 85, 1018 NN, Amsterdam, The Netherlands; nBureau of Mines and Geology, University of Nevada, Reno, NV 89557; oClimate Change Institute, University of Maine, Orono, ME 04469; pUniversity of Rochester, Rochester, NY 14627; qDepartment of Environmental Health Sciences, University of California,
Los Angeles, CA 90095; sP.O. Box 141, Irons, MI 49644; and rDepartment of Chemistry, DePaul University, Chicago, IL 60614
quote:
A carbon-rich black layer, dating to 12.9 ka, has been previously identified at 50 Clovis-age sites across North America and appears contemporaneous with the abrupt onset of Younger Dryas (YD) cooling. The in situ bones of extinct Pleistocene megafauna, along with Clovis tool assemblages, occur below this black layer but not within or above it. Causes for the extinctions, YD cooling, and termination of Clovis culture have long been controversial. In this paper, we provide evidence for an extraterrestrial (ET) impact event at 12.9 ka, which we hypothesize caused abrupt environmental changes that contributed to YD cooling, major ecological reorgani- zation, broad-scale extinctions, and rapid human behavioral shifts at the end of the Clovis Period. Clovis-age sites in North American are overlain by a thin, discrete layer with varying peak abundances of (i) magnetic grains with iridium, (ii) magnetic microspherules, (iii) char- coal, (iv) soot, (v) carbon spherules, (vi) glass-like carbon containing nanodiamonds, and (vii) fullerenes with ET helium, all of which are evidence for an ET impact and associated biomass burning at 12.9 ka. This layer also extends throughout at least 15 Carolina Bays, which are unique, elliptical depressions, oriented to the northwest across the Atlantic Coastal Plain. We propose that one or more large, low-density ET objects exploded over northern North America, par- tially destabilizing the Laurentide Ice Sheet and triggering YD cooling. The shock wave, thermal pulse, and event-related environmental effects (e.g., extensive biomass burning and food limitations) con- tributed to end-Pleistocene megafaunal extinctions and adaptive shifts among PaleoAmericans in North America.
comet iridium micrometeorites nanodiamonds spherules
Will await your scholarly critique/rebuttal....
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:06 pm to DawgfaninCa
You're playing devils advocate. Use common sense.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:19 pm to Skyler97
If not for climate change we would still be in an ice age.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:21 pm to ThinePreparedAni
quote:
Will await your scholarly critique/rebuttal...
This baw just writes a bunch of shite, baw. Likes to use words like axiom and what not to make you pretend thank he knows what the hell hes talking bout.
But BOOM on the rebuttal...
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:26 pm to AggieDub14
quote:
Yeah the crack in the ice shelf in Antarctica has expanded 11 miles in 6 days. This isn't normal.
Guess you missed the following:
quote:
Ice shelves are permanent floating sheets of ice that connect to a landmass, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center. Since the ice is already floating, the newly created iceberg won't contribute to rising sea levels.
I'm supposed to be bothered why, exactly?
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:28 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
Look up nutrition research.
Still falsifiable dummy.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:35 pm to Skyler97
None of us deny climate change.
Climate change is a fact. It has happened for 3.5 billion years on this planet and will continue to happen until the sun becomes a red giant and engulfs the earth.
What we deny is Man made/caused global warming.
Ill throw you a bone and even agree that man may be contributing to global warming, but I completely disagree that it is a bad thing.
As a matter of FACT, Global warming is actually fantastic for the United States.
It is one of the best possible things that could happen for THIS country and should be encouraged.
What you uninformed alarmists miss is all climate models show that for the United States the amount of arable land increases from 36 to 76% in the US from a 5 degree C increase in global temperature.
We will truly become the bread basket of the world even more so than we are now.
So be kind to your fellow American and fire up your SUV.
Edit: I don't own an SUV but because I love the USA I'll be like Motel 6 and leave a light on for you!
Climate change is a fact. It has happened for 3.5 billion years on this planet and will continue to happen until the sun becomes a red giant and engulfs the earth.
What we deny is Man made/caused global warming.
Ill throw you a bone and even agree that man may be contributing to global warming, but I completely disagree that it is a bad thing.
As a matter of FACT, Global warming is actually fantastic for the United States.
It is one of the best possible things that could happen for THIS country and should be encouraged.
What you uninformed alarmists miss is all climate models show that for the United States the amount of arable land increases from 36 to 76% in the US from a 5 degree C increase in global temperature.
We will truly become the bread basket of the world even more so than we are now.
So be kind to your fellow American and fire up your SUV.
Edit: I don't own an SUV but because I love the USA I'll be like Motel 6 and leave a light on for you!
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:39 pm to AggieDub14
quote:how the frick would you know? What's not normal for the earth is to even have polar ice. That's only happened during 5 relatively short ice ages, one of which we are still in the middle of. Up until about 15 million years ago there was no Antarctic or artic ice sheet at all, since the end of the next most previous ice age
Yeah the crack in the ice shelf in Antarctica has expanded 11 miles in 6 days. This isn't normal
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:47 pm to Skyler97
quote:
What is happening to my country
I don't deny that greenhouse gases can increase global temperatures. What I deny is that the Paris accord (or any of the other treaties like it) have anything to do with climate change. They are nothing but wealth redistribution schemes.
I also think the climate change problem will fix itself by natural market forces. Someone will make electric cars viable and cheap. Battery technology is progressing. One day we'll have nuclear fusion which will solve the power grid problem.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:48 pm to genuineLSUtiger
quote:
I hope you don't refer to yourself as a Christian either. Because that would make you a huge hypocrite.
Not at all. Because faith and science are two completely separate issues. You can't compare the two.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:49 pm to AggieDub14
It's called gravity. When the ice shelf becomes so laden with ice that the buoyancy of the water underneath can no longer load the weight, it cracks and breaks off. The word cantilever and shear strength can be applied in this application.
Dear God, I pray that this young man is a troll.
Dear God, I pray that this young man is a troll.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:55 pm to bonhoeffer45
Very underwhelming...
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