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re: So let’s brainstorm this; what is the dems’ play with Joe?

Posted on 8/7/20 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by Jspaspa3303
Member since Jun 2020
2382 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 1:46 pm to
These people are capable of anything and they have the media on their side and will not hold them accountable for anything . If they replace Joe it will be someone with name recognition. Hillary or Michelle is what I’m thinking . I would not be surprised if they tried to throw Barack back in there . The media would love it and say he’s doing it to save the world , and people would fall for it .
Posted by Smedium27
Bestbank
Member since Aug 2010
3517 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 1:46 pm to
August = Release some articles about the lack of reasoning for debates. Push mail in voting and claim it has to be turned in 2 to 4 weeks before election. Try to get people to vote for him before the debate. Continue random Joe interviews and use the time between the next interview to fix what ever mess Joe did in last interview

September = There will be a new negative trump headline that will distract most voters for the first half of September. Sept 9th Hilary has to go back to court so it will be something huge to distract you from this. Around September 20th they will have a solid week to find a way to cancel the debates on Sept 29th. My guess it will be schools closing down again due to severe increase in cases due to the weather is starting to cool down up north. If they find a way to cancel the debates twitter will start banning and fact checking all of trumps tweets attacking Joe for not debating.

October = Whatever excuse worked for September debates will work for Oct 15th debate. At his point due to the large number of questioning why the debate was cancel, they will do a "personal" debate where someone like Barack will ask Biden certain questions and is given what answer to say. What they will do is ask questions that Trump has answered or passed a policy for. They will take Trumps stance and argue every single stance without giving Trump the option of debating him on the set questions. Example being his response to Covid, something that is 100% political and has no answer but only biased opinions.

November The few days before the election will be an extreme flood of social media post supporting Joe. It will be a summary of every attack on Trump summed up in 2 days
Posted by Snoopy04
Republic of Texas
Member since Aug 2015
3015 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by ProfFrink
Springfield
Member since Nov 2018
3407 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 1:49 pm to
Safe pick. Expect him to lose. Don’t want to risk a young gun (AOC, Yang, Booker) suffering a defeat and tarnishing their careers.

Dems are playing for 24, they expect a loss in 20.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 1:49 pm to
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They are saving younger candidates to groom them. They are using Joe to initially get a progressive message out so it won't be so progressive in 4 years. A party rarely wins 3 terms in a row so that is a chance to get really progressive.


I hadn’t considered this. It’s very plausible.
Posted by RazorBroncs
Harding Bisons Fan
Member since Sep 2013
13535 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 1:50 pm to

While I agree on the sentiment that Biden will ultimately be replaced, either after accepting the nomination or after being elected, NO WAY they're dumb enough to replace him with Hillary.

She disgraced their party in 2016 by losing to Trump (in their eyes), and her likeability is less than ever now. No way they try to trot her out again, even THEY aren't that stupid. Although we all know Hillary would be foaming at the mouth for the opportunity and probably has wet dreams about it nightly.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15786 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 1:51 pm to
Platform:
1. Raise taxes.
2. Defund the police.
3. Mandatory transgender education for elementary students.
4. Abortion anytime, anywhere, anybody
5. No prisons.
6. No borders.
7. No expression of Christian religion.
8. Mandatory acceptance of Islam.
9. No free speech for thee.
10. Stay home or go to jail.
11. Send everyone home from jail.

The above list is the ideas I’ve seen the Democrats espouse publicly in their own words.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67065 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 1:53 pm to
Joe was a trojan horse placeholder candidate used to defeat Bernie in the rigged primaries. He will be replaced either at the convention or after inauguration. He is the most empty of any empty suit politician. He is less a statesman but a team of consultants propping him up “Weekend at Bernie’s” style.
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 1:54 pm to
I think Democrats are inherently envious and jealous people, nearly all of their policies and constituencies are based on this mentality.

I don't think the Democrat king makers want someone in charge who they believe is more competent than them. They eat their own.

As a Conservative, I don't like any of them. But pretty much every Democrat candidate would have shown their own independence as a President, or had some character trait that made the average Democrat envious of.
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
6983 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 1:57 pm to
They are throwing Joe to the election gods for sacrifice. They know Trump is gonna win so they are saving their best candidate for 2024.

He's just a sacrafical lamb.
Posted by bizeagle
Member since May 2020
1165 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 2:12 pm to
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Safe pick. Expect him to lose. Don’t want to risk a young gun (AOC, Yang, Booker) suffering a defeat and tarnishing their careers. Dems are playing for 24, they expect a loss in 20.

This is the best guess I have seen so far, except for a couple more observations:
1) when Biden was chosen by the DNC elites, it was assumed that Trump could not be beaten, so Biden was a place holder destined to lose, like when the GOP nominated nominated Bob Dole to run vs. Clinton. Biden is just a worn out useless old fart who is an easy sacrifice.

2) when covid changed the playing field, it was too late to withdraw Biden. Covid gave the DNC an unforseen disaster opportunity to leverage. The DNC is so completely depraved that they are willing to acquire the Presidency by any means, even with Biden the demented idiot because they know Biden is a puppet of whoever they place in key positions to pull the strings.
Posted by PacoPicopiedra
1 Ft. Above Sea Level
Member since Apr 2012
1153 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 2:12 pm to
I don't think they will replace him with Hillary. She's burned most of her bridges and the Bernie people obviously hate her with a passion. I do believe that the story about Michelle Obama suffering from minor depression was the first shot taken to introduce her as a possible replacement. Her "depression" reflects the feeling of so many dims right now regarding who's in the White House.

If we see more articles about her like this, I think we will eventually see her say something like, "I can no longer sit on the sidelines when it is so dangerous to let Trump have a second term.", and she will either accept the VP nomination and become President after the election if Joe wins, or, earlier, replace Joe after he receives the nomination at the convention and then steps aside.
Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3079 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 2:13 pm to
They're planning to get him elected and then invoke Article 25 to get him out so that whoever the VP is can do whatever the dims want her to do.
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 2:14 pm to
The Obamas
Posted by westide
Bamala
Member since Sep 2014
2882 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 2:16 pm to
Joe is demented, he is a pathological liar, he is a pervert, he is a racist, and he is crooked. You couldn't pick a better candidate to typify the Socialist/Communist party of America.
Posted by illinitiger
North then South
Member since Feb 2009
3224 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 2:23 pm to
If the plan is to replace him wouldn’t they need to do it this weekend before the August 10th filing deadline in Ohio? I’m not sure how it works but just read this on the Ohio.gov website.
quote:

Political party or independent candidate nominating committees must certify name of person to fill vacancy on the Nov. 3, 2020 general election ballot caused by withdrawal or disqualification of candidate by 4 p.m. (86 days before general election)


If that’s the case and they try to switch after they won’t be on the ballot for Ohio?
Posted by Uncs
Member since Aug 2008
3080 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

Hitlary is maneuvering behind the scenes to steal this nomination



Exactly. they will move Biden out with one Debate left and she will show up as the replacement and only have to do 1 debate and do a decent job and try and rig the shite out of the returns.
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 2:46 pm to
He is really the only viable candidate since Hillary already lost once to Trump. The Obama admin (and DNC) was so incompetent and corrupt they forgot to groom anyone other than a few over educated ignorant black women.
This post was edited on 8/7/20 at 2:54 pm
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4221 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 2:52 pm to
The really don't care much who they put up there. We all know that person is/will be a place holder in name only. The presidential shots will be called by the $$$$$.
The dems are currently being guided by a devised plan from those $$$ people. If you look at every thing the dems are doing its as if it's being rolled out like scripted.
There's know doubt the $$$$ people are using their 'all in plan' to prevent another Trump victory.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95206 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 2:54 pm to
Money doesn’t solve everything and going hard left only works if you can hoodwink the middle.

Biden is shaping up to be the worst candidate since McGovern and the only reason Trump won’t win in a similar margin to Nixon in 1972 is that politics are so fricked now that about 150+EVs are banked for the Dems before they even start each election.
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